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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 35 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

It feels like the whole reason for this is so that Christians can have their own schools not controlled by fed rules/laws. Self-segregation.

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's not that. They already can have their own schools. It's just they want to take our money to pay for them, and they want to push their values on to us.

If you've been reading the newspapers over the last year or two, you've seen various States try to pass various rules about the Bible or the Ten Commandments. They weren't doing that in private schools; private schools already could do that, right? So partly we have people who are trying to force Christianity on to others, but I think more importantly we have people who want money and power, and they will weaponize religion in order to get it, as people have always done throughout the course of human history. It's not like these people pushing to get Christian religious texts in schools actually care what's in the Bible. They will pretend otherwise, but don't believe their lies. It's 100% greed.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It’s not that. They already can have their own schools. It’s just they want to take our money to pay for them

But there's certain things they couldn't do in the past, if they wanted the fed money. Now that those policies and mandates are going away, they can do whatever they want, they can go hardcore, for lack of a better description.

If you’ve been reading the newspapers over the last year or two, you’ve seen various States try to pass various rules about the Bible or the Ten Commandments. They weren’t doing that in private schools; private schools already could do that, right?

IANAL, but no, for constitutional reasons, as well as getting money from the feds if they don't do it, versus sacrificing that money if they do do it.

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 9 points 17 hours ago

No. They absolutely want to push the bullshit onto the rest of us.

[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It does seem that way with the tax credit and school choice push. Is the DoE the answer or could it be handled better at the state or regional level?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Is the DoE the answer or could it be handled better at the state or regional level?

My belief is that if we are to be a single nation, then it had to be handled at the federal level by the DoE, and not at the various states level.

At the states level its just an easy prelim/prep for a future civil war.

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[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but what is that tag at the bottom of your post? I tried reading through the link but I couldn't gather. It's free use but they can't assume ownership or endorsement?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I’m sorry but what is that tag at the bottom of your post?

Some info about that ...

https://lemmy.world/post/26711096/15639879

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[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So would that look like pulling all say from the states and putting all funding, policy, etc. at the federal level?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

So would that look like pulling all say from the states and putting all funding, policy, etc. at the federal level?

I'd say funding would be dual-leveled, depending on what is being funded.

Policy mandates at the fed level would be funded with fed dollars. Meal and health programs too.

Things like physical building maintenance and teacher salaries would be at the state level (with help with fed funds for poor states).

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[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's mostly how it is now, no?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

That’s mostly how it is now, no?

Assume so. 🤷‍♂️ Don't know details. Was just responding to your question.

I'm also assuming that would change with the removal of the DoE.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The US Department of Education doesn't mandate any curriculum from the federal level. States set their own curriculum guidelines.

If you hear someone making this complaint about the federal government dictating what can and can't be taught in schools, they are either being intentionally disingenuous (in which case they should be called out for it immediately) or they are an idiot who bought this idea being peddled by someone else (in which case they should be enlightened).

Christians (and any other group that wants) can (and do) already have their own private schools.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The US Department of Education doesn’t mandate any curriculum from the federal level. States set their own curriculum guidelines.

Nobody said that is what is currently being done. They do affect a general direction though, keep everyone "on the same page", via policies/mandates.

From HERE ...

Today, ED operates programs that touch on every area and level of education. The Department's elementary and secondary programs annually serve nearly 18,200 school districts and over 50 million students attending roughly 98,000 public schools and 32,000 private schools. Department programs also provide grant, loan, and work-study assistance to more than 12 million postsecondary students.

The Department carries out its mission in two major ways. First, the Secretary and the Department play a leadership role in the ongoing national dialogue over how to improve the results of our education system for all students. This involves such activities as raising national and community awareness of the education challenges confronting the Nation, disseminating the latest discoveries on what works in teaching and learning, and helping communities work out solutions to difficult educational issues.

Second, the Department pursues its twin goals of access and excellence through the administration of programs that cover every area of education and range from preschool education through postdoctoral research.

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