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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 days ago (7 children)

It's funny because it's hardly an inspiring or memorable 14 word sentence. It's just awkward and clunky.

Like, why "secure"? Why not "safeguard" or "defend"? IMO those are stronger, more emotionally resonant words.

And why "existence"? Why not something stronger like "survival" or something more than survival like "prosperity"?

And just "a future" for white children? Not "a glorious future" or "a triumphant future"?

And, why "white children"? Not the white race?

Also, how is "a future for white children" distinct from "the existence of our people"? Are white children distinct from "our people"?

I could get it if it were framed as: we must defend our survival now so that our children can prosper. In that case you're saying that the present might be tough but the future will be bright. But they're not painting the future as bright, just "a future", which is really the same as an "existence" so it's basically saying "Our people must survive and so must our children, who are also our people, but smaller."

Like, they memorized the first draft of some dumb saying and revere it as "the 14 words", but it's just badly written, nevermind all the racism.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's the same tactic as the "It's OK to be white" or "White lives matter" slogans, but more clever because it leaves enough ambiguity such that just about anything can be justified under it. It mentions children to come across as more innocent and to implicitly accuse the opposition of endangering children (also playing into LGBT scaremongering, with the Nazis using the same tropes they use today). "Think of the children!" is a common and effective propaganda line.

Saying "future" instead of "glorious future" suggests that the children wouldn't have a future at all otherwise. That the white race is under attack and is otherwise on track to be eliminated by Jews and communists and so forth. It's harder to justify atrocities in the name of "a glorious future" vs "a regular future" as opposed to "a regular future" vs "we are completely exterminated ourselves."

It is, of course, bullshit, because it's literally Nazi propaganda trying to frame them as on the "defensive," but it is carefully and intelligently crafted propaganda. It's important to understand the enemy and their approaches in order to better counter their movements and defeat them, they should not be underestimated.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I get what you're saying, but it's still just really clunky writing.

Like, you want to include children for the "think of the children!" aspect, then just add "and our children" to the existing clause. There's no need for a whole secondary clause about the future of the children when that's already covered by the clause about the existence of our people.

It's not that I expect Nazi writing to be good. It's just that someone has to have said it better than this, even just accidentally, and yet this version is the one that Nazis have decided to immortalize.

If this version was the winner, what were the early drafts like?

[–] oo1 3 points 5 days ago

Maybe they emphasise "children" to encourage more of the current adult generation to sacrifice themselves. And to manage expectations of when the benefits arise.

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