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The Trump administration has frozen $175 million in federal funding to the University of Pennsylvania over its policies allowing trans women to compete in women's sports.

A senior official said this is "just a taste" of further action, with UPenn at risk of losing all federal funding due to a Title IX investigation.

Trump signed an executive order on February 5 banning trans women from women's sports, citing fairness and safety concerns.

Advocacy groups are challenging the move, arguing it discriminates against trans athletes.

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The paradox of tolerance is tolerating intolerance can lead to the erosion of tolerance itself. I'm perfectly cognizant of what you're trying to say, and what your meaning is and I can tell by your replies that you've not only not read what I've said (or don't understand it), but you're entirely misrepresenting what I have said.

You're under the entirely mistaken impression that I'm being tolerant of those who are being intolerant because I'm not calling for their heads on pikes. Being anti-trans is intolerant and I believe that pushing back against them is worth doing and necessary for a society. But acknowledging that, according to the US constitution, these intolerant people have the right to be intolerant in the same way that trans people have the right to be trans, isn't being tolerant of the intolerant. It's pointing out that our most supreme law of the land affords these people this right and attempting to curtail that right is in violation of those rights and is unconstitutional in the same way its unconstitutional to attempt to curtail the rights of trans.

I've said exactly two things in the entirety of all my replies here;

  1. All people have rights, not just trans students, which must all be respected whether you think their opinion is repugnant or not
  2. Universities shouldn't have the right to set the social zeitgeist for students, that needs to be left up to the students themselves and if that means the students agree that trans athletes shouldn't compete then that needs to be respected too

Personally I would hope that wouldn't be the case. I would think that the younger generation have a good head on their shoulders and would see that trans rights are human rights. But you can't force that ideology onto people. Recognizing people have a right to be intolerant isn't siding with them, nor is it feeding into a tolerance paradox. I can still call them assholes and bigots while simultaneously recognizing their right to be repugnant.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand your arguments and I reject the conclusions you've drawn.

Sure, all people have rights and their rights must be respected. However, some people are misusing their rights to, in effect, erode and negate other's rights. In such an event, that behavior needs to be checked/curtailed by the societal groups around them, and, failing this, at an institutional level. Allowing that behavior to spread inevitably leads to an erosion of all human rights, which must be prevented.

What you're doing is effectively pardoning that behavior by reinforcing their rights, letting them have a platform to continue to spread toxic and negative ideology, and refusing the university in curtailing their bad-faith behavior. The university can, and should, continue to allow trans athletes to compete, and should stand up to a government that tries to erode trans/human rights. Full stop.

Some behaviors are simply unacceptable, and preventing that behavior is not synonymous with restricting rights.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago

I'm not a legislative body, so I can't pardon anyone.

Female students have a right to a safe space free from genetic males--trans females. Prioritizing trans females ignores current female athletes' concerns. Which is the core issue.

You can't negate students' rights for inclusivity. Gendered leagues are, by definition, gendered. Schools can't legally curtail student rights to accommodate others, regardless of feelings about transgenderism. Some athletes oppose competing with trans individuals, and their rights have to also be respected.

This is a desegregation moment. Like the South's defense of segregated schools, gender-separated sports are being used to exclude. The Civil Rights movement shifted focus to Black students' right to public education. You have to shift the focus from a never-ending fight about rights to desegregate collegiate sports. Mixing gender-separated sports with transgenderism is untenable. Eliminate gendered sports; a level playing field removes grounds for opposition. It's the only sensible solution.