cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23396300
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nickyflowers posts:it would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. the advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though and their definitions of family and friendly are absolutely fucked. but since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. tiktokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to
nickyflowers replies:
oh im sorry you're a trans adult? super ban. you are super banned for life. you have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. how could you do this to Google Ads?
Normalize supporting software and sites through donations rather than ads.
If your community dies since nobody supports it, it was shit anyway.
We agree here, but this will not necessarily stop the rot. Companies will just approach these communities and offer the leaders massive buyouts, and then flood it with ads (see Twitch).
Communities themselves need mechanisms to punish or vandalize advertisements.
The mechanism for community to punish buyouts and vandalisms is to abandon the platform when it becomes bad. It used to be common but now people have too low standards.
It is more to do with being locked into a walled garden. If your community and family use Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc. then you either have to stay, or get left out.
In the new US Constitution we should include Data Portability as a right.
This is true but we have been there before and have overcome it multiple times. I quit fb but I found it hard since the car community for which I manufacture parts for is mostly there.
When enough people leave and start using something else, soon their closer friends and family cave in and also make accounts there. Eventually the switchover will cascade. Happened with orkut, myspace, google +. Sure FB is almost too big to fail but the one we need to fix the issue by is the site that will supercede fb, in my opinion.
I would like to avoid going on a rant, so I'll just say this - capitalism does not work. The phenomena you are describing (... now people have too low standards) is called "tyranny of the majority" and capitalism does not have an answer for this. Hence why we really need to figure something out.
As a side note, I do not think communism nor socialism are the answer either! Despite what many are led to believe, we live in primitive times and have not figured out a sustainable economic model.
I do not think any of them work but a hybrid system is good. Capitalism is like a fire, if you don't control it you will burn everything, as US has shown. Capitalism where there is space for innovation, entrepeneurship and bringing new and fresh innovations to the market and being rewarded for it while providing a safety net of free education(up to phd), healthcare, affordable housing and basic income is what I think is ideal. Since freedom doesn't mean freedom to do anything you desires, freedom means freedom to be able to fail without destroying your life. Here in europe we are pretty close to it and I will keep making political descisions to move the country towards it.