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Counterpoint for Judaism: The Torah explicitly states that Jews do not own the land until the Messiah returns. So technically Shumer is not correct
Religious Jews from organisations such as Naturei Karta frequently demonstrate against Israel.
Bar Kokhba was identified as their messiah, during the third and last Roman-Jewish war. Bar Kokhba genocided every greek and roman person he could find and created a new "Israel" for about 2 years. The Romans eventually marched back in with a massive army of 12 legions and counter genocided the whole place, shattering Judaism for a millenia.
I'd recommend reading the wikipedia articles from 2021, as that wikipedia has been a battleground of rewrites in the past 4 years, all focussed on rewriting it completely to change the narrative to Romans: pretty bad, jewish rebels: pretty good.
heres the older version: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bar_Kokhba_revolt&oldid=1039570569
Heres the current rewritten one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt