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[Video] Democrat leader Chuck Shumer: "Of course we say it's our land, the Torah says it. But they [Palestinians] don't believe in the Torah. So, that's the reason there is not peace." (i.imgur.com)

submitted 6 days ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

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The background is Blue.

The words are MAGA.

I wonder if there is a term for this.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not that I support it but the Vatican is VERY DIFFERENT than Israel. It has no real power by design and is not an autonomous country by any means

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It has no real power

The Vatican? I mean, some number of billion dollars and quite an impressive userbase.

I think you meant like armies and weapons etc., though, which is fair enough.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I meant political power

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Uhhh... They have kind of absurd political power. The Vatican is essentially the decision making body of something a close to an international political business with a history of teaming up with governments to support initiatives.

Like look at the genocidal regime of residential schools in Canada. While they were a government initiative 2/3 of them were run directly by the Catholic church.

Political power doesn't always mean strictly "interfaces directly with official government" either. Politics is the web of citizen buy in to how the world should be run. The Catholic Church is incredibly influential on citizens many of whom take the directives of the church and translate it into agency in a multitude of ways. It's not a perfect control but it's certainly used to shape the political landscape the world over.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

The couch fucker, untold numbers of the Trump admin (including RFK), and half the Supreme Court are a Catholics, and not the friendly rapist grandpa kind, the weird no contraceptive, private schooling, and also rapist conservative Catholics.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

While I agree with your premise they did plan an assassination of the leader of a country back in the late 30s early 40s. Everyone was just cool with it because it was Hitler.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I'd say that's a far cry from planning a genocide