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Just following on from this: https://lemmy.nz/post/1134134

Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'

I'm curious about how far this goes.

You can't get fired on the spot in NZ, unless you like, shot someone or set the building on fire or something really bad.

But it seems that in the US, there's little to no protections for employees when their bosses are dickheads?

Also, any personal stories of getting fired on the spot?

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

"At will" employment laws are load-bearers for all sorts of horrid ruling class abuses. They allow "at will" employees to be fired under any false pretenses and make it nearly impossible to prove those pretenses were false.

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

That's not what "at-will employment" means. It's an agreement between employer and employer that they agree to employment, and they both have the right to terminate for any or no reason. I have fired employees and been fired myself by employers based on this. Why use "false pretenses " when you don't have to. "You're fired." 'Why?" "Because you are." End of story.

[-] Sinonatrix@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The problem is you legally don't have the right to "terminate for any reason" when it comes to a number of protected classes, but these laws make it so we have to rely on you being stupid enough to create a massive trail of evidence (easy part with small business tyrants), but also litigate it for potentially years on end - harder

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

You're wrong. Employers do have the right to terminate members of a protected class as long as it's not because they are a protected class.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Employers do have the right to terminate members of a protected class as long as it's not because they are a protected class.

And they enjoy the unwritten privilege of pretending there wasn't a reason that was because of prejudice against the protected class. But you're so far up your own ass that you either can't see that or you refuse to see it because it benefits you.

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I fired someone in a protected class maybe a year ago. They were, by their own admission incompetent. They were also falsifying their time card. All documented. I've done the same with a straight white guy. Is that my prejudice?

Look, I know it happens wrongfully. But don't accuse me of shit that you have no basis for. It detracts from your whole argument.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

They were, by their own admission incompetent. They were also falsifying their time card. All documented.

Can you at least try to write out your self-congratulatory autobiographical post without it reading like it could be narrated by Patrick Bateman? bateman-ontological

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