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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 137 points 1 week ago (12 children)
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 142 points 1 week ago (22 children)

He really does think the EU is a country. I'm not sure my opinion of Americans will ever recover from them having voted in this absolute moron.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~37% voted third party or not at all.

Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

Edit: 37% didn't vote, not 67%. Thanks Lemming

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh, fuck that. Stop making excuses.

Yes, the US electoral system is all kinds of fucked up, but Trump won, and the Republicans won a majority in the house and the senate. And since then, even though he's dismantling the federal government the level of protesting in the US is minimal.

Look at the protests in Serbia or in Turkey, or even in Israel. The protests in the US aren't happening because enough Americans either support Trump or are OK with what he's doing. This isn't some merely Republican thing. This is Germany in the 1930s, one group driving the process and the vast majority either supporting or just going along.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

The protests in Turkey are something I wish Americans would demonstrate. I agree.

I think the reality is that Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, they're highly individualistic after decades of materialistic conditioning, and younger generations are captured by social media instead of voicing their woes in the streets.

But there is an appetite for action. Look at Bernie's rallies. People want change, and polls reflect how people have little to no faith in the Democrats.

There needs to be an organizing principle if any political action should be effective. I'm finding the group 50501 to be that, and I try to share their plans on social media and with my friends & family. The next protest I plan on going to is on April 5th.

But you're right. Americans are distracted with their toys and treats. Make no mistake though. If Trump's decisions continue to tank the economy, and toys and treats become too expensive, even for the middle and lower class, I believe there will be more action.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You seem to be doing some American math in that first line.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

I fixed it. Thanks for dunking on my character rather than correcting me tho

[–] corbs132@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

130%? Might wanna check your math

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

My bad. Just ran through the numbers on ballotpedia the other day.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

As an American, same.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Well, I as (a well educated) European was quite surprised by the fact USA is a state... So... We're even?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (3 children)

America was killed, by Americans, in a democratic election. And so many are still fondling the corpse, writhing with carrion bugs, and pretending it's still alive.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

America was killed, by ignorant Americans

[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When fascism came to America, it was wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

Fixed

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

It Happened Here

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

America is dead. Only Murica remains.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

Oh...

I can guaran-fucking-tee you my opinion of so-called "Americans" will never recover...

I'm more concerned if the country is ever able to recover.

FUCK!! IT'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS!!

Much worse is yet to be realized.

And, yes, I'm a suitably embarrassed US'ian.

🙄 🤦‍♀️

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Twice. They did it twice.

You can almost (but not quite) forgive the first time. You could -maybe- write it off as an experiment, or that they were giving the 'real politicians' a scare to get them back in line. However that's a lot of 'almost' and 'maybe'.

But the second time, that's fucking unforgivable.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I didn't vote for him, but I expected his first term to be appoiting halfway competent people to run everything so he could fuck around and take the credit. I doubt I was alone.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because I thought he was lazy.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

He is incredibly lazy, but he's also incredibly vain and thin-skinned. Halfway competent people don't suck up to him enough, so he was never going to be interested in appointing them. It was always obvious he was going to prefer incompetent but fawning.

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 54 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What the fuck do tariffs do other than make shit more expensive for US residents?

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

America is the largest consumer state on planet earth. A huge amount of foreign economies rely heavily on export to the United States and tariffs can do a LOT of damage. Trump knows these tariffs are a huge bargaining chip, but it’s the type of chip you can only use to this degree once. And he’s cashing it in for… his own political clout. The natural response to this that we’re already seeing the beginning of, is countries restructuring their industry to be less reliant on the U.S. which will ultimately do far more damage to the U.S. than the U.S. can do to other countries. And once they’ve all done that, there won’t be a good reason to ramp that trade up again.

As an American this is going to suck a lot for us, but right now everything Trump is doing sucks for us. The shame of it is that no matter how bad it gets, I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it. What other option have they been given?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it.

If anything, they haven't condemned our fascist government enough. I think they're still largely in shock. Hopefully they'll get in the groove of the new world order without the US sooner rather than later.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If anything, they haven’t condemned our fascist government enough. I think they’re still largely in shock.

There's no sense in pointless bluster. Much is happening behind the scenes.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

They need to kick the US out of all those military bases around the world.

[–] masinko@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

From the same supporters who will shoot themselves in the foot to own the libs, this is at a much larger level.

Also, a classic facist move. Get everyone to turn on you, then propagate "the world is out to get us", and once you instill that mentality on the people, it's easier for people to believe we're the victims, and we're fighting for our liberation.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Theoretically, they encourage Americans to buy American-made alternatives to tariffed goods. In some case that will work, but the tariffs need to be targeted for that to happen. For example, putting a tariff on fishing rods might make people buy locally-made fishing rods rather than imported ones (this is an example of a retaliatory tariff Canada placed on the US btw).

This doesn't work when the tariffs are on things that aren't made locally. If you put a tariff on things that aren't made locally you just make things more expensive. If the government is sane and stable, businesses might invest in a factory to produce something that isn't made locally to take advantage of the tariffs, but that kind of thing takes time. And if you think the government might change its tariff plans before you can finish your factory, it's not worth the investment.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

He thinks our economy is strong enough to stand on its own and that's absolutely ridiculous.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

"Don't make me hit you harder."

Abusive relationships are the only kind Trump knows how to have.

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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

With friends like these…

Like seriously, you can’t make this stuff up, folks! The schoolyard bully who beats you up after class and continues to insist that he’s your best friend! Not only that, he tells all the teachers that actually he’s the victim and you’re the bully!

How many of you out there knew someone like that? Made you count down the days until you were outta there for good so you’d never have to see his face again! I wish we (Canadians) could get the hell out of this toxic high school we’ve suddenly found ourselves in…

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago

"Im beating you because i love you, besides you made me do it."

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