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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, etc all suffer the same problems. I’d love to hear other alternatives (and I don’t mean alternatives like searx that is little more than lipstick on a pig and proxies search results from said engines).

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

DuckDuckGo is just Bing wearing a duck hat

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And yet it works better than Bing somehow.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

It actually doesn't.

[–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's nothing perfect. I use Kagi which uses many other indexes including Google, but with a focus on "small web" results and no ads or mandatory AI nonsense.

...but it costs money.

Well worth it in my opinion. My results have been better than Google for me, and I've been using it for like a year now. Highly recommend.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I learned about kagi when I got here on Lemmy and I've been using it since. Sucks that it costs money but they're not making money elsewhere, that i know of, so it can't just be a loss leader and free.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately Kagi is out of reach of most of the world. I'm sure it's great for those privileged enough to have access to it, though.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Thanks! I’ll give it a try.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How is DuckDuckGo shitty? It suits me fine.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here are my gripes:

  1. Uses Bing for a backend
  2. Too many ads
  3. Tries to be too much like Google
  4. Continuous attempts to force feed me AI
[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah yes, I have to admit the constant AI shilling does make me want to look elsewhere. I also didn't know that it's basically askjeeves but for B‽ng, lol

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not the word I would use but yeah, it's basically a frontend for Bing. And what's especially annoying is that it serves you links to unpaywalled news that's behind an MSN paywall.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks for that because I do feel like, thinking back to earlier today it wasn't giving me the video result I was looking for when searching for "Chinese tiktok make America great again"

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

shoves results about completely different contexts of the words, most noticeable when trying to look up game mechanics which share names with IRL phenomenon.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I'm starting to be convinced that it really is being enshittified almost daily lol

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It's like the fucking 90s all over again but for completely different reasons.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I daily DDG but !g bang out to Google 80% of the time

Hit the back button once this month though - DDG was better than Google!!!

Has only happened twice I’ve noticed in a year!

DDG, pls use my data to be less terribly terrible (and stop rearranging results, as reported years ago)

PS: will get Kagi once I find a job cuz too lazy or something to get into SearXNG properly like I should. And Mullvad’s got Leta btw which like bundles searches for privacy

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would this be the Brave that has the cryptobro stuff in it?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes bit you can use their search without thwor browser

well there’s european based search engines like marginalia-search.com (but it mainly uses keywords, but has search filters at the bottom of the search result) and stract.com (which is in beta), I’d like to see if there’s more tho