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[–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

even if you ignore curvature you have a resolution limit that depends on the aperture. Look up Rayleigh criterion for more info

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That would fall under "nonvisual perception"

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What about magical visual perception?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think vision would fall girly within the realms of physics. I don't know if you can justifiably call it visual anymore when it incorporates magic

It's like, if there's magic bow that launches arrows at a far greater rate than it normally would, would you say that the energy comes from the buildup and release of tension in the wood? There's another element there, which enhances the thing

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Except that this problem doesn't specify distance between horseman, so I think it's a bit bogus


no need to resolve an individual person to be able to tell that they're there. And for hair color, if you make assumptions about the clothes being worn, you could perhaps infer color of hair, even if the hair isn't resolvable (a person being a "single pixel" would have a different hue depending).

[–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So, a typical pupil is around 2 mm in diameter in bright conditions. With the Rayleigh limit that results in an angular resolution of 1.22 * 60010^-9 m / 210^-3 m = 3.66*10^-4 rad

At a distance of 5 x 3 mi = 15 mi = 24.1 km this corresponds to a point to point distance of

tan(a/2) = (d/2)/l

d = tan(a/2) * l * 2 = tan(3.66*10^-4) * 24100 * 2 = 8.8 m

So in conclusion, with regular, human-like eyes he could discern points that are at least 8.8 m apart in the best case scenario. Discerning hair color from the color of the clothes would need a much higher resolution, and the horsemen are probably not 10 m apart from each other either. And again, this is a theoretical limit, real-world resolution would probably be significantly lower.

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 3 days ago

which is why legolas has huge anime eyes

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 6 points 3 days ago

That's part of the "make appropriate estimates" bit. You can just pick any reasonable number for the angular resolution Legolas needs and answer the question using that. Provided you do the method right, you'll get the marks.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The only way this would make sense is if the horsemen are all riding next to each other, which would allow him to estimate the count based on the average width of one riding horseman. As soon as one is even partially in front of another, the 105 number breaks.