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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is inaccurate. Graphite is not flammable. It forms small particles that, mixed with air, could combust in a dust explosion, just like flour.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm probably just being dense but what's the difference between being flammable and being susceptible to combustion?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 22 points 1 week ago

In technical safety terms, combustibles are harder to ignite than flammables. So diesel and olive oil are combustibles, for example, because neither of them give off enough ignitable vapour at room temperature. Ethanol does, so it gets classified as flammable, and you need to store and handle it more carefully than diesel. Then there's really horrible stuff like triethylborane which will catch fire upon meeting oxygen even at temperatures well below the freezing point of water

Of course in casual usage they mean the same thing

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They’re referring to the relationship between surface area and combustion. Talc, for example, melts but does not burn. Talc powder can ignite if blown over an open flame.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

My first thought was: "I must try this". I need to read my house insurance policy first.

Curiosity got the better of me when I waved an alcohol wipe over an open flame. There's still a dark mark on the office carpet tile from where I had to stamp it out.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Please invest in a fire blanket and keep it near by when you do stupid things with fire.

Signed, a fellow fire bug

Mine paid for itself the first time a flame got out of control while I was having some fun. No lasting burns to human or objects in my office lol.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Keep away from dust explosions, they are very uncontrollable because they ignite very fast and produce a lot of heat. It's technically not an explosion, but it definitely is an easy way to burn your house down.

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Mythbusters did this with coffee whitener as I recall. Impressive.

This has also happened to sawmills and flour mills, under less controlled circumstances.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Let it be someone else’s carpet. Or in this case, driveway.

https://youtu.be/Ce_uT1TXYr0

Skip to 3:10 for the action.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You're not dense for asking a question. Without asking questions, it's Impossible to learn.

The flash point is different. The flash point is the temperature that is necessary to create enough vapor for the substance to ignite.

Flammable material has a low flash point, which means it catches on fire easily. Think gasoline. Combustibles need a higher initial temperature, but eventually they will burn and sustain the burning until running out. Think wood.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Makes perfect sense, thank you

[–] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago

You misgendered round spicy flames

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Wood is also combustible. You need a lot of heat to make wood burn. Hold a lighter to your pencil, it will not instantly catch fire, do the same with paper and you need a water bucket nearby.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sharpen the pencil and create a bunch of tiny shavings then put them in a pure O² environment. They'll light up real fast.

Tbe Apollo 1 fire spread so quickly because in a pure O² environment fucking velcro was super flammable.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Finer bits of wood, like sawdust, or pencil shavings from sharpening, catch fire much more readily than a solid chunk of wood like a whole pencil.

Given the right environment, finer sawdust can even be explosive.

A lot of campers and other outdoorsy types are probably familiar with using "feather sticks" to start a fire, where you take a stick and cut a bunch of fine curls into it, almost like you're whittling down the stick but leaving the shavings attached.

The whole stick wouldn't readily catch fire, but those finer curls attached to it will light pretty easily and spread to the rest of the stick.

And while I've seen some pretty impressive feather sticks made by people with a steady hand and sharp knife, most of the time those feathers aren't quite as fine as most pencil shavings.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, try lighting your pencil on fire in a 100% O2 environment. It's not the pencil being flammable that was dangerous, it was the pure oxygen atmosphere making the pencil extremely flammable to the point where a small spark from static electricity could cause it to almost instantly immolate, that made it dangerous.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Let us just note that this would be impossible when using it to write something.