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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Anyone know what the bootloader unlock process is like for Fairphone? I know they support it, but does it take 7 days like OnePlus or constantly have issues like Motorola?

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They have a howto on their support page

https://www.fairphone.com/en/bootloader-unlocking-code-for-fairphone/

And i just tested it, you get the unlock code immediately.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 7 points 1 week ago

Oh, nice. That was my question. I wish it didn't require a code at all, but at least you don't have to wait a week like some other manufacturers. Thanks!

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why this requires a code rather than a toggle in developer settings like a Pixel. That doesn't seem like openness and a commitment to treating users fairly since they could change their policy at any time.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've read that it's because fairphone has to pay a fee for each unlocked device, but it sounds a little weird so no idea if that's real.

but, it can be worked around if you don't want to get logged. the system just wants a 200 OK response from the server, I think through HTTP (not S), so you can set up an MITM proxy or custom DNS and web server to always give this response without using their website. that's what I did too.

you can read more here: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/oem-unlock-input-verify-code/56231

edit: and also here: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/unlocking-bootloader-offline/95573

and the connection is actually HTTPS, but does not validate it against a globally trusted root certificate, so it can easily be served by a local server and a self signed cert

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I’ve read that it’s because fairphone has to pay a fee for each unlocked device, but it sounds a little weird so no idea if that’s real.

The posts seem to suggest that Google is charging them a fee in that case, but that would be a little surprising given Pixels have a no-fuss unlock, and Google permits third parties to redistribute its proprietary add-ons to Android free of charge for installation by end users.

In any case, you've convinced me this probably isn't Fairphone being evil, though some sort of public explanation would be nice.

[–] hanke@feddit.nu 10 points 1 week ago

First thing I did on my Fairphone 4 was to flash iode OS on it.

I don't know much about bootloaders and such, but I was done and happy within an hour after purchasing it.

Also, if I am not mistaken, I think warranty is still valid if you run custom ROMs.

Fairphone is very pro openness 😄

[–] solrize@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait the Fairphone has a locked bootloader? The mind wobbles.

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago

Else anyone with physical access can install spyware without anyone noticing. Thats a bit of security which most people probably won't notice but can be deactivated in a minute by any owner, so I don't mind.