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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world -2 points 24 minutes ago

ass stock operating system, no macro lens, shit battery, still overpriced. you are better off with a refurbished pixel with a custom os.

im still not sure the whole business thing is a just a greenwashing scam or not.

on the other hand the battery can just be popped out, has a cool semitranspaerant early 00s design.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I wish they could implement the parts of the Pixel phones that allow GrapheneOS to be used.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean, you could use CalyxOS

It dosent have such things as 2 factor pin auth for fingerprint, but its the closest to Graphene

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 26 minutes ago

Not quite the same. The big thing with GrapheneOS is it can run the actual Google services, but sandboxed. Organic Maps is better than Google Maps in everyway, but it's routes are so much worse because it has no traffic into to go on. It's an anticompetitive network effect, but it's hard to fight without law makers.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What parts are these? I've always wondered what this was about, why the pixel was the only phone that could support GrapheneOS

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

So, graphene could be put on those phones if the devs wanted to do it, but it would be less secure since the bootloader would remain unlocked.

Also, supporting a small line a phones is probably infinitely easier than a range, of devices, but it would be nice to have another option. Especially now that the Fairphone pice is reasonable.

[–] Prism@feddit.org 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The Fairphone can be locked after flashing a custom rom. /e/-OS is officially supported. You can even buy it from them with /e/ preinstalled. iode-OS also works. I don't know about Graphene OS, but tbh, I don't see the benefit of Graphene OS for the average user. /e/ has built in privacy features, is google-free and runs MicroG as alternative to Google Play Services. Most apps run fine. You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

I've been using Fairphone 5 with /e/-OS for over a year and love it.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

/e/ has built in privacy features

/e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.

is google-free and runs MicroG

So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.

You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

You can do the same with aurora store. That's available on just about every phone.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I like it a lot but I need two physical SIM slots so it doesn't work for me, unfortunately. But great idea and love the price drop

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Unfortunately it's not available in the US though.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (3 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I used a Jolla when it was new. It was pretty decent, and in fact had many innovations. Apple brought gestures to their OS several years after. It was one of the first implementations of a phone UI implement on Wayland, and one of the first serious Linux non-Android phones. Might still be.

Unfortunately, being a pioneer does not always help. Application developers didn't get interested in it enough so it never really got any apps.

[–] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Looks ok but I dont like the subscription model for os updates. First 12 months is free, then you have to pay.

But I guess they have to make their money somehow.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I looked at it, but it looks really outdated phone. Would be interesting if we live in a 2015, but not today.

[–] sykaster@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In what way does it look outdated?

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Look at its specs. Processor and screen and so on.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

People need to stop wanking over specs for a device that'll be used 99% of the time to send text messages and watch YouTube videos

What do you need on a phone that takes 8gb+ ram?

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 2 points 53 minutes ago

I need my pocket sized spaceship computer for shitposting and occasionally checking my email

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 23 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Bring back the headphone jack

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

No thanks, i've broken every single one. A dap with bluetooth receiver works better.

What do you do to break them?

In my forties and never broken a headphone jack, headphones, cable, or in fact anything like that. I tend to take care of my stuff and not treat it in such a way as I’m going to break it.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We can but hope. I have a dongle that plugs into my charging point to make it a headphone jack, but it's not the same

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I recently went through that dongle buying experience. Having to get the correct DAC and amplifier chipset so the sound won't be too low is annoying. For the record I ended up going with one that has the CX31993 DAC and the MAX97220 amplifier, it doesn't have a real name so I'll just give a link: https://aliexpress.com/item/1005008755907868.html. It is a bit louder than my first impulsive buy, but I haven't tested the microphone yet.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 1 points 18 minutes ago

Thanks for the link!

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