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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/20737457

In the summer of 2023, a dozen people willingly walked into a steel chamber at the University of Ottawa designed to test the limits of human survival. Outfitted with heart rate monitors and temperature probes, they waited in temperatures of 42 degrees Celsius, or 107 degrees Fahrenheit, while the humidity steadily climbed, coating their bodies in sweat and condensation. After several hours, their internal body temperatures began ratcheting upward, as the heat cooked them from the outside in.

“Few people on the planet have actually experienced temperatures like this,” said Robert Meade, a postdoctoral researcher in epidemiology at the Harvard School of Public Health who led the study. “Imagine moisture condensing on the skin like a glass of water on a hot day. That’s how hot it was, compared to skin temperature.”

Their experiment tested the body’s ability to cope with extreme heat by exposing participants to temperatures at which they could no longer cool themselves. Their study confirmed that this dangerous threshold is much lower than scientists had previously thought: a so-called wet-bulb temperature, which accounts for heat and humidity, of 26 to 31 degrees C.

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suggesting that humans cannot effectively thermoregulate in wet bulb temperatures (Twb) above 26 to 31 °C, values considerably lower than the widely publicized theoretical threshold of 35 °C

And I'm thinking that showering or swimming in water at 31°C is considered "quite hot" and is representative of ocean water temperatures in some tropics like in Oceania.

I researched a bit further and swimmers have died racing swimming in hot water, but possibly idling in hot water might give about 1-2°C margin of survivability compared to sweating in a wetbulb heatwave on land.

However swimming pools are very often built underground in the style of an open top basement, and water often comes from wells, so I still think there's some chances of surviving with the help of water.

Now when ground temperatures rise above that lethal temperature, everyone without a heat pump is going to die.