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[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 166 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

As I understand it, the protocol has the ability to decentralize built in. But the technical requirements are prohibitively high to the point only large businesses or corps could afford to do it. I also believe (someone correct me) the company hasn’t switched on the functionality yet.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Last heard (a few months ago) the cost is in storage. The protocol isn’t too complicated now, but it generates a shit ton of data, and IIRC you need a minimum of 3 copies.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 24 points 3 days ago

Storage is cheap whwn it comes to webhosting and 3 replicas is honestly not much when it comes to enterprise standards. I think cloud storage providers like backblaze keep something like 9 copies of data across different mediums

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

my mom has always told me that I had the potential to work at NASA. but the requirements are prohibitively high

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

I believe in you!

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

all you need is a work ethic and a time machine

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago

Maybe you remember PDS federation not being open for a while, but it's open now.

Running a public appview can be very expensive, but they're working on making it cheaper to run one with a limited scope.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The biggest thing is that you need to be manually authorized by them for federation. They will only ever federate with servers that arent serious enough competition to lead to democratization of the overall network.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, PDS federation is fully open now.

They're also actively supporting development of 3rd party appviews and relays.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The power dynamic is still 1000000:1 they can do whatever they want and you will have to follow. If they defederate you, there is no value in your self hosted instance.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Partially - something running independent infrastructure like Whitewind (blogging on atproto) will still work just like before (it's easier for them to run it independently because you don't need a full network view, just pull in the posts from the user's PDS for standalone display)

When the work to make appviews easier to run makes it more practical this will be less of a risk.