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Some many in these comments are like "what about the ethical source data ones?"
Which ones? Name one.
None of the big ones are. Wtf is ethically sourced? E.g. Ebay wants to collect data for ai shit. My mom has an account, and she could opt out of them using her data but when I told her about it, she told me that she didn't understand. And she moved on. She just didn't understand what the fuck they are doing and why she might should care. But I guess it is "ethically" sourced as they kinda asked by making it opt out, I guess.
That surely is very ethical and you can not critic it for it... As we all know, an 50yo adult fucking a 14yo would also be totally cool as long as the 14yo doesn't say no. Right? That is how our moral compass work. /S
Fucking disgusting. All of you tech bro complain about people not getting ai or tech in general and then talk about ethically sourced data. I spit on you.
I love IT, I work in it and I live it, but I have morals and you could too
Edit: after a bunch of messages telling me that I am wrong. I wonder when they will realize that they are making my point. I am saying that it isn't ethically sourced without consent and uninformed consent isn't consent. And they are tell me, an it professional with an interest in how machine learning functions ever since alphago and 7 years before the ai hype, that I don't understand it. If I don't understand it, what makes you believe the general public understands and can consent to it. If I am wrong about ai, I am wrong about ai but I am not wrong about the unethical nature of that data, people don't understand it.
I don't mean to "um achtually" you or diminish the point you're making, but I would like to highlight one example of an ethnically trained AI.
Voice Swap pay artist to come in and record data for training, the artist then get royalties any time someone uses their voice. I discovered it through Benn Jordan's video about poising music track from AI training.
Yeah, except royalties in music are almost always a joke. Those artists are going to make much less off their AI voice than if they actually appeared in studio and the end product is going to be worse. If AI cost the same or more, there would be no market for it. Relevant story about Hollywood actors who sold AI likenesses.
Even if it was actually "ethically trained", the end result is still horrible.
Also, paying to have an AI Snoop Dogg in your song is the lamest shit I've ever heard.
"It's shit" is different from "it's unethical".
If people want to pay for shit, let them pay for shit. They can't make me listen.
Someone saying whatever heinous shit they want using your voice seems a bit unethical, as does getting paid pennies for it.
If you've sold them your voice under the condition they can do whatever they like with it, I don't see it being unethical. You walked into it informed (presumably) and accepted the "pennies" (presumably). It may be stupid. What comes out may be shit. But it's not "unethical".
If they stole your voice, or if you had content limits that they breached, or if they're paying you less than you agreed for, then yes, it's unethical.