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[-] bagend@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

I'm paying some guy's mortgage but he gets to keep the house at the end.

[-] LinkedinLenin@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Someone paying $800 a month for their rent is gonna have paid $470,400 by the time they retire. That's like two fucking mortgages for the "service" of not being homeless.

It's just restructured feudalism at this point. We've abstracted away the direct relationship between landlord and serf, but over half our labor is still going to some third party doing none of the work.

[-] raven@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

If you like your feudal lord, you can keep them! pete

[-] LinkedinLenin@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

If you don't like your feudal lord, you also keep them! obama-spike

[-] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most successful proletarian revolution resulting in almost perfect redistribution of land.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Fun fact, the benefits persist to this day. Nearly 90% of people in China own their home http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-05/15/content_15295765.htm

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Feudal serfs got way more vacation days than us

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Those were not vacation days, just days where they could till their own fields instead of their lord's. For most people life then was full of backbreaking labour, illiteracy, disease and the constant looming threat of starvation. There is no need to romanticise feudalism.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm actually seriously considering selling and going back to renting to get my flexibility back. I really despise being tied down to physical location, and the constant threat of having to move for a different job makes it even worse.

Probably won't sell in the current market, but when it makes a bit more sense.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

People who worry about “flexibility” are aliens to me

How are you in a material spot to just bounce around because you want to?

This person admitted they won't actually carry through with it, they just want to sound like a wealthy person.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

They clearly are wealthy enough that their brain is half rotted, causing them to say things like “I’ve seen many people living in poverty because they refuse to move”

Absurd

Moving across state lines is simple. Just reserve a U-haul box truck and off you go!

brainworms

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Literally, when I told them they were detached from reality they responded “what? No I’m not, it’s not expensive I just rent a truck and move!”

I got a new job after the pandemic and got 3k in relocation compensation, and that didn't even cover the most bare bones of a move.

[-] bagend@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I like the flexibility too, I just wish I could have it without giving some leech half my paycheck.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It's not that I necessarily want to. Jobs just usually end one way or the other after a while. In my experience, renting really opens up the job market. Move wherever the new job is. That's a lot harder when you own.

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I just can't imagine leaving my community so easily for a job I guess, but I imagine plenty of folks must do it all the time.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

congrats on having a community.

i hate it here get me out

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Find a big queer city >:) even if you aren't queer there'll be plenty of fine folks and communists abound

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I guess everyone has different priorities. I just refuse to let myself or my family live in a crappy situation because I want to stay in a specific location. I often see people living in poverty because they refuse to leave a place to take a job elsewhere. Doesn't make sense to me, but everyone has their own life.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People don’t live in poverty “because they refuse to move”

They live in poverty because they are stuck there, and moving to somewhere else is incredibly expensive and difficult

Your worldview is utterly detached from the reality of the common person

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Not sure how that's "detached from reality."

I've moved a ton. It has never cost me anything other than the cost of renting a moving truck and sore legs for a few days. Certainly beats living in a place with no job or some random low-paying job.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Lol that you think your experience is the norm while claiming that others are simply fools for choosing not to move

The news flash here brain genius, is that YOU can do that, almost everyone else cannot

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

All right. Fair enough. I don't think that I took everyone else for a fool, but I never saw it as a very expensive or hard thing to move. Not in my experience. But others could have a different experience. Thanks for the heads-up.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for reflecting o7

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I mean, I came from a very poor region and it was hard to move for me, but it was made easier because my family was beginning to cut me off for being queer anyway and I had the privilege of WFH too. I know lots of people who'd move out of their region if not for their family supporting them in some way they can't get elsewhere (or they don't think so, atleast).

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm the same as you, but I recognise that I had the privilege of being born in the capital of a very centralised country so there's little reason for me to move to better my lot. If I'd grown up in a deprived former mining town up north I'd probably have been long gone as soon as I could.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

As someone who had to move 5 times I four years due to landlords and am now in my seventh glorious year in my own flat, that sounds mental.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

What would you do if you lost your job and couldn't find anything in your current location?

In the current high-interest market I'd probably rent out the property and rent something else wherever the job is located. But then you have to be willing to be a landlord. Some people aren't.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

As I said to someone else Futher down, I recognise that I'm privileged to have been born and live near the capital of a very centralised country so I never really need to worry about moving for work as I'm already where the highest wages are. I just got so miserable as a renter moving so much and never feeling like I had an actual home I couldn't go back to it now I'm settled.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Got it. That's just not the situation of most people. They have to move for a job or live in a terrible situation. I'd move in an instant rather than live in crap.

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