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It absolutely upsets me is that when I bring up women's issues, I often get met with "Men experience that, too!", and that takes away from the attention an issue needs.

This is not me playing to win the "victim olympics", I'm just saying that men really need to listen and realize how exactly women are being treated in these scenarios and why they feel it needs to be brought to attention.

Example: medical discrimination / not having your health being taken seriously as a woman. Do men experience it? Sure! But men absolutely DO NOT experience this in the same way/volume that women do.

Did you know that many clinics will not allow you to get a hysterectomy or your tubed tied without the permission of your spouse? If you are single, they may refuse altogether because "what if your partner wants kids someday?" A HYPOTHETICAL MAN HAS MORE POWER OVER YOUR BODY THAN YOU DO!!!!

Pain being dismissed as "hysterics". Being constantly told that any medical symptoms you are experiencing are a result of """anxiety""". Dismissive of painful menstruation and/or pregnancy, because "woman have been doing this for thousands of years!" Refusing autism diagnosis because "it's not typically a girl thing".. I could go on.

This is not limited to experiences within the medical field. It's.... loooots of things.

Like, fuck.. it's okay to not understand the experience of others. It's like when I hear folks say "Everyone is a little bit OCD! Everyone experiences that sometimes!" like...... no??? Absolutely fucking not, you have no idea what OCD is like, and you're being an insensitive idiot by saying "eVeRyOnEs A lITtLe BiT—" NO THEY'RE FUCKING NOT!

Men face their own issues. Sometimes men's & women's issues overlap. Sometimes there's a little overlap, but women face a much greater degree of fuckery over the issue than men do, and vice versa. That's okay. Just don't invalidate that it may be a larger issue for women than it may be for men.

That's all.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My experience was worse than yours. I didn't mention it before, because anecdotes are not data. I'm not suggesting that women (on this issue) don't have more negative experiences than men, statistically, on the whole. I'm not suggesting anything about "who has it worse." Nobody should receive that kind of roadblock to an elective surgery of their personal choice.

Saying "But men ...," or saying "This is a women's issue - and by extension, not a men's issue," are both dividing a group of people with the exact same interest into opposing groups, who arguably appear more motivated to fight against each other instead of fight for each other.

[–] wendigo@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you have worded this so well and it’s one of the reasons I have begun to mildly hate posts like this. even if it’s not intended, it reads as if it is creating a divide between people having it worse, when really it should be about solving these issues for everyone IMO.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago

I spent a very long time on each of these comments, because I know this is a super hot button topic for a lot of people. Which is part of the problem, evidence of that problem, something like that. Don’t crucify me on this one, I just woke up.