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For those that have poked around other fediverse stuff beyond Lemmy, and been around the spaces awhile, what's stuck out to you as stumbling blocks, or basic user experience fumbles? Which parts do you think may be technical, and which may be cultural?

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[-] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a little surprised across the responses so far that there's been no mention of the adoption of or migration to a fediverse platform of some prominent creatives or communities.

It's understandable why they haven't given many of the issues already mentioned thus far, but in terms of others jumping in to federated services, among the least technical stumbling blocks by far is probably the absence of those (or those communities) they'd like to continue following (or participating in) here. Some of that may fall under discoverability/onboarding & content or critical mass mentioned, but it still caught my eye that it wasn't specifically mentioned.

I suppose by its lack of specific mention this mightn't be seen as being as much of an issue?

[-] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I talked about this with someone else a few days ago. Professional content creators aren't going to like the Fediverse very much, as the decentralization fundamentally means that there’s going to be a smaller audience for them to reach due to users being more spread out between instances in addition to the lack of ads and recommendation algorithms to spoonfeed their content to new viewers. There's really no reason for them to prefer the Fediverse over the centralized corporate platforms that basically cater to their use-case. I don't think it works as a profession here, at least in its current form. The Fediverse is good for hobbyists and everyone else though, whom I happen to prefer for the most part.

[-] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

There’s really no reason for them to prefer the Fediverse over the centralized corporate platforms that basically cater to their use-case.

Wouldn't a couple, maybe niche admittedly, reasons be less advertiser-influenced rules/moderation and in certain cases more control? E.g. YouTube's notorious for its algorithms affecting views abruptly & near inexplicably, whereas something like PeerTube (or for streaming, Owncast) lacks those and enables less restricted content (fewer worries about automatic ContentID noise).

Similar situation with Pixelfed instances not having to fret over folks post nudity 'cause advertisers supposedly don't like their adverts next to nudity in some regions. Don't get me wrong, I see where you're (and they're) coming from on this, you go where the audiences are & where, give or take, certain features play to your benefit (i.e. recommendation algorithms), but I've also seen so many creators also chafing against the awkward antics of the corporate platforms, be it YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

[-] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

The loss of money matters more, to the point where it's better for them to just put up with the annoying rules that pop up. They'd have to make this switch out of pure ideology, which considering that this is their job, that's not going to win out in most cases.

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