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Kind of, but it is like how cats go nuts for laser pointers until they realize there is nothing to catch, it is a hollow interaction.
I really can’t tell the difference between man and machine in a forum-esque space. Websites in search are overwhelmingly terrible, but they aren’t hiding their slop. The only reason I can fully trust the people here is the timing and moderation. AI astroturfing has made its way here, and went largely unnoticed for several months, until a post in one of the fediverse communities highlighted their efforts.
You could tell enough to take the time to reply to me even though I go on weird rants that look like an LLM has gone rogue but has no desires other than to rant on the internet lol...
There are certainly contexts where it is very difficult to the difference between humans and bots, but I think the existential question then is how has the conversation degraded so much in a given context that a trace of humanity is not only undetectable in real humans interacting, the presence or absence of it is no longer even a property observable in the system.
To me, in some ways the ability of an LLM or bots to distort a conversation is in a sense an indicator of how unhealthy and how unstable that conversation is and how little diversity in life experience and perspective is left in it.
I am not trying to shame people for not having smart enough conversations though, my point rather is that our public shared spaces for socialization have been SEVERELY degraded and it is just hard to keep that in context sometimes so we forget how far things have really fallen and we become conditioned to accept the lack of humanity as normal.
To be honest, I use the internet in a fundamentally solipsistic way. I derive truthful information from books published more than 2 years ago, peer reviewed studies, or irl conversation, which I often fact check afterwards. Replying is a low risk, medium reward activity, by comparison, so why not? At least, that’s how I see it.
I think you might have the opposite view to my own, as far as ai goes. It’s not so much that conversation has grown abased, so much as ai has advanced to the point that it’s capable of being a near facsimile of it. Humanity just built a machine that makes sentences and it’s pretty good at it.
I agree with you somewhat, but the internet is largely children and no one really knows what’s real or not. The number of times I’ve done something stupid due to a little niggling voice that says “do it” is uncountable. It takes far less to cause someone to go against their interests than most people believe. Always has, always will.
As people have become kinder online, they’ve also grown more stagnant. Free expression births beauty and horror in equal measure. The Wild West old internet wouldn’t tolerate trans people, so I can’t really say concretely which I prefer.
oof i am sorry your conversations are so sterile and chopped into unconnected pieces
That isn't a dog whistle, that is just a whistle fyi
In online spaces, they generally have always been. As a kid, I noticed that the majority of users are incapable of connecting the dots between one point and another
Dammit, I edit in segments and forgot to add my link. Fixing after I reply. The argument that art is birthed from struggle is not unique. Wealthy, experientially stunted thieves were the original “AI.”
This reads like it was written by AI, and the logic is full of holes like AI answers typically are too.
Not as much of an argument of Theseus as an unconnected set of thoughts. I don’t generally write in essay format online anymore and don’t care to begin again. Also, rude.
Edit: should have checked your modlog first. My bad