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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m a vegetarian, dumbass. But I understand it will be quicker to build vat grown meat facilities than convert everyone to vegetarianism. We do not have more than a generation or two before the planet becomes unlivable.

Grow up.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

We don't have a generation or two left.

People can choose to give up meat now or they'll give up meat later when no one can afford it anymore. I won't need to force them to become vegetarian, the economic conditions will do it for me. I'll just be ready before everyone else.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So we’re going to rely on voluntary behavior from people and Big Ag producers. That’s a fucking abysmal plan.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There is no plan! That's my point.

Environmental collapse is going to make meat impossible for 99% of people. There won't be anything voluntary about it, people just won't be able to afford meat and so they'll stop eating it.

We could avoid this with central planning and regulations, but we won't.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So you’re alarmed, but not enough to support vat grown meat alternatives? That’s a bridge too far?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a waste of our limited time and resources. If it's ever viable it's just going to be a treat for rich people, it will not ever be viable as a mass meat alternative for most people.

It's right up there with cold fusion and general AI. It's not happening, not on the timescale needed to avoid catastrophic climate change.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Florida has banned it. Big Ag lobbyists are aggressively moving to get it banned in every other state.

Seems like a lot of wasted money, for something that’s not a threat. What do you know that they don’t? How about you write up your expertise, and make some money off it?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I know that we are on the brink of the end of the fucking world and every dipshit capitalist thinks they can be the last ones to squeeze the last drop of profit out of our planet before the mass dying begins. They're hedging their bets to make sure lab grown meat never happens.

Justice will come for them.

Just eat plants. Treatlerites need to grow up.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure. Let’s keep on with the ‘just eat plants’ messaging. Surely it’ll start working any day now.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I didn't say it would "work", I think my pessimism is pretty obvious. What I said is they're going to eat plants whether they like it or not.

Unless they're hunting the Most Dangerous Game, there won't be any meat for anyone sooner rather than later.