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[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

You cannot have a painting without an artist. A sculpture without a sculpture. A tool will never use itself, it takes a user.

Imagine a blank and static universe. Someone had to add or move something to start the initial reaction even if they never play a part in the events after.

In some sense there is a creator. I just don't know in what capacity.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

If you zoom out on the universe it's almost pure noise. Does that resemble what you'd expect from a designer? I guess it could be designed, but there's also no reason to indicate that if pure randomness is also expect to create the same things.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 points 29 seconds ago

I am unsure of the capacity of a designer, constructor, what label you want to call an input. To have noise there must be an initial force to create it regardless of its structure, randomness, pattern, form. A big bang, literally anything we may never know. But if the universe was static and blank with no energy or anything just a black sand box. There would be no noise until a reaction happened.

I have never seen something come from nothing. I don't think anyone has ever or this question wouldn't have been asked or even be in our consciousness.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Can anyone make sense of this post? It looks like unintelligible symbols crammed together to me.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Hmm. I think you can't have those things without an observer. Art, beauty and utility are in the eye (or hand) of the beholder, and apt to appear anywhere.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 minutes ago

I agree with this. Whether life is a series of evolving or constant simulation, whatever form it takes for which we cannot form answers for yet. Something cannot come from nothing. I again just don't know, nor does anyone the answer to OPs question.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

In fact, nature has some of the best art. And our art is almost as good. Does it mean we are almost god? Does beauty signify gods presence? It is very harsh to the less graceful people that have hearts of gold

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 minutes ago

Nature is the best art. Nothing a human could produce lasts a comparable scale of time, force, evolution, as nature. I think as a civilization we need to harness more of natures principles. Atleast until we can find another comparable medium that isn't nature to process our problems. Which we have not done yet.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Why someone? Why not something? Physics say a monopole magnet is mathematically possible, something like that would absolutely cause a disturbance because it doesn’t conform to the laws of physics we have defined like every action has an equal and opposite reaction… I think you’re right, something happened but I don’t know why it would be someone and not simply probability and the natural world conforming to that probability

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 minutes ago

I can't answer every question especially pertaining to evolving science. I wouldn't even try.. I'm not religious either. To have something, someone or something had to create it that's all I can muster on the subject. Can you create anything without touching, moving, manipulating by some outside force?

I don't know how it happened, why, person or thing. All I can figure is if the universe was a blank sheet of paper, something had to add, kickstart, etc a reaction for things to unfold regardless of size, time or scale. I don't really believe the universe at its utmost basic, blank canvas form voided form, simply has energy. It doesnt make sense. Energy requires input from some outside source.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing in physics say that time has a beginning or end. It says in fact that it doesn't have that.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It does not say anything about time starting, ending, or anything. It is just a set of rules that approximately reproduce results we observe. It is not the rules of the universe. The rules we use in physics actually do not have a direction for time. It works the same in both directions, though clearly time does have a direction. It does not make predictions on if time started or if it will end, only what is the case for what we can observe right here right now.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 18 minutes ago

Um, yeah the interesting part is that while physics itself indicate time as a one dimensional infinite band, (with possibly branching multiverses but I digress) we as humans attribute a beginning and end, as all we know consists of such objects and entities. Our mind is terrible at grasping infinity, it has even broken many curious minds that try to understand it and are a bit too tenacious in their search. In any case that is my proposal here, that it is an unanswerable question how the universe started. We have facts up to big bang. It (as usual with these things) gives us just more questions than actual answers to how the universe came to exist. I argue that it always did and always will.