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When most people talk about "hating AI" they're talking the AI that is this wave before the next winter: (de)generative AI (whether based on LLM or diffusion or whatever ever other tripe drives things like GPT, DALL-E, Jukebox, etc.).
And yes, I hate AI in that sense, in that it is a dead end that is currently burning up the planet to produce subpar everything (words, images, music) while threatening the very foundation of cultural knowledge with obliteration.
AI in a broader sense, I don't hate. Even the earlier over-hyped-before-wintered AI technologies have found niche applications where they're useful, and once the grifters leave the (de)generative AI field we may find some use cases for AI there as well. (I think LLMs have a future, for example, in the field of translation: I've been experimenting with that domain and once the techbrodude know-it-all personality is excised from the LLMs and the phrase "I don't know" is actually incorporated properly I think it could be very valuable there. You still have to look out for hallucinations, though.)
But (de)generative AI in general is overhyped shit. And it's overhyped shit that cannot be meaningfully improved (indeed latter-day models turn out to be worse than earlier ones: ChatGPT4's suite is more prone to hallucination, for example, than ChatGPT3.5). So a whole lot of people are getting pressured, a whole lot of lives are being ruined, a whole lot of misinformation and active disinformation is being spewed by them ... but hey, at least we can have shit writing, shit art, and shit music!
This is an excuse used many times but it doesn't stand to inspection. Let's go with robots making cars. When the auto industry had massive layoffs in the '80s the median age for factory workers assembling cars was about the early '30s. What proportion of people in their '30s make any kind of transition to stable, well-paid careers when they're rendered redundant? (Hint: not very many.) An entire generation of the rust belt, in effect, because of automation, were shoved into poverty THAT WE STILL SEE TO THIS DAY. And that's one sector. Automation shit-canned a whole lot of sectors and the reverberations of that have echoed throughout my entire life. (Born in the '60s.)
The only "positive move forward" seen by these traumatically devastating technologies released willy-nilly into society with no mitigation plan is that rich fuckers get richer. Because, you know, Sam Altman needs more cash and not a punch to his oh-so-punchable face.