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From the day Britain left the EU, this reset was inevitable. What a pointless waste of time, money and effort (www.theguardian.com)

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Do you agree that Brexit has been "a pointless waste of time, money and effort"?

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[–] middlemouse@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else instead of voting for Brexit

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

In this thread

but I hope we can talk about it in good faith and not fall back into entrenched views as has often happened in the past.

Also in this thread

I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else instead of voting for Brexit

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[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

just because someone advocates harmful policies in a polite way, doesn't mean they aren't an advocate for harm.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

That's the point of civil debates. To discuss and challenge the ideas in order to reach a better understanding. If you're simply going to tell people to "fuck right off" without addressing their concerns it shows a deep lack of understanding of their concerns and only helps to push them further away from your own position.

What advantage do you get from insulting someone? Whilst I don't agree with the original post, I don't want to excuse this behaviour of the reply.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

If you’re simply going to tell people to “fuck right off” without addressing their concerns it shows a deep lack of understanding of their concerns

no it doesn't, people can have "concerns" that are fundamentally incorrect or in bad faith

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm not saying that people don't have incorrect concerns. I'm saying how does saying "fuck off" as a first response help? You're advocating division with that attitude. I'm saying help those people rather than othering them.

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm saying its perfectly reasonable for some to meet one insult with another, just because you don't see the first insult doesn't mean its not there or that its anyone else's obligation to spell things out for you. also, sorry, but "pushing people away from a position" is preposterous. this "look how you made me vote!" stuff is so childish.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago

Where was the insult in OP's post?

I only saw OP putting their points across quite peacefully and then out of nowhere

I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else