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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I don't like memes like this.
It makes them look like they are too stupid to understand what they are doing.

This is not the case. They know EXACTLY what they are doing and count on the rest of the country to shake their head and point fingers laughing.
Instead of stopping them.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 15 hours ago

The typical FOX News watcher assumes that criminals are bad guys by character, are caught red-handed and identified by a perfect means of detection, and still dress like The Hamburglar.

So no, they do not understand that a robust due process is the right of any given suspect before they are even fined (though a one-year sentence is usually the bar for a mandated jury trial, depending on the state / county), and this is a controversy in the US because a lot of people are not afforded their full rights, or are often coerced into surrendering rights by law enforcement who is more interested in putting a warm (brown-skinned) body in jail than actually seeing justice done.

In this era, no one is asking exactly whom CECOT is supposed to be imprisoning. Here in the US, our death row inmates are treated better, and US prisons are notoriously squalid for industrialized nations. CECOT is Edgar Allen Poe caliber cruel-and-unusual incarceration for tens of thousands who are allegedly worse than the people the US would execute.

Mara Salvatrucha members don't deserve CECOT incarceration. Tren de Aragua members don't deserve CECOT incarceration. So who was thinking what when the CECOT facility was built?

And then we're sending people there for life who have mere visa infractions -- a grossly disproportionate sentence -- and the US is skipping the hearing before a judge.

So yeah, congratulations, United States, you've become one of the worst offenders of human atrocity... again.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 8 points 17 hours ago

The politicians know what they're doing.

This is directed at the voters parroting what the tv told them to

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 12 points 20 hours ago

it's okay to me because it helps with some phrasing on how to explain it. lots of fellas don't get it. I usually tell the homeless guys I talk to due process/habeas corpus means you deserve your day in court, no matter what you done or didn't

[–] ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago

You should watch newer political debaters that invite average trump supports up on livestreams to argue on issues like this. A majority of them dont even understand due process.

Legislators? Sure. Constituents? Probably not.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I agree that they know exactly what they're doing but the argument they put forward is a simple one for likes and thumbs up:

Do you want an MS13 gang member in the country?

And the answer has to be:

Are you sure they're an MS13 member? Let's be sure because that's important or innocent people will suffer.

Otherwise, any political opponent is subject to deportation without examination. That means you.