It's not the cars that are the issue. it's the politicians and lobbyists who have made it necessary to own one.

That's exactly my point. Instead of pointing the finger at our curremt vehicles, we should be focused more on pushing for better legislation. The rest will follow suit.

It's all come down to over consumption.

You said it yourself... It has nothing to do with our use of personal vehicles.

Our reliance on vehicles is a result of horrible city design, lobbying from vehicle manufacturers, and lack of public transportation. All of which have nothing to do with people's tendency to over-consume.

We all need fuel to drive the car, if the oil is stopped today, what are people gonna do? They still have to change their behaviour regardless.

When you start creating impossible hypotheticals to justify your reasoning, it is a sign that your argument doesn't actually make sense.

Let's look at energy production, the single worst contributor to emissions worldwide. The consumers' propensity to overuse has no bearing on where the energy comes from. Switching to renewables comes from government intervention in the form of incentivizing/requiring green energy production. Unfortunately, due to utility monopolies (at least in the US), the consumer has no way of controlling that. So no, it's not all a cycle, if it were that simple, we wouldn't be having these problems.

obviously you are never going to comprehend IT ALL NEEDS TO GO

Except that's not the case. There are plenty of ways to offset emissions, and that is exactly how formula plans to reach carbon-neutrality by 2030. When that happens, what, then? Do you think they still need to go? Even if they are doing no measurable harm to the atmoshpere? What if they had negative carbon production due to excess offsets?

It seems you are far too obsessed with the principles rather than approaching the situation rationally/pragmatically.

Also, I don't even watch racing lmao.

Am i weird if i tighten bolts by moving my fingers up/down intsead of side to side?

Im gonna start calling him Elmo from now on haha.

Their hobby is a feat of mechanichal engineering, and like I said, their prescence accounts for less than 1% of total emissions.The research and development that goes into these cars can also translate to consumer cars.

I wouldn't be surprised if the improved aerodymics, engine efficiency, and reliability from pushing engineering practices significantly offset the emissions created by the sport

Here is an interesting read showcasing that f1 puts out one tenth of the emissions that the world cup does and also shows that the races themselves only cover 0.7% of the sport's emissions. So that is 0.7% of <1% of global emissions, which is negligible.

I understand that off principle, it may seem like a waste, but thinking pragmatically for a second one can see that the benefits outweigh the environmental costs.

While I can respect the idea, pragmatically speaking, it would be too little too late. My 10 percent figure refers to global emissions from personal vehicles globally. In the US, these account for less than 2.5% of global emissions

Like another commenter mentioned, the majority of people (in the US) can't even afford EVs yet, and many can't afford environmentally conscious food replacements. If the government provided credits toward EV purchases/subsidized production/expanded public transportation, then it would maybe be possible. But given the current economic climate, it won't happen, and the rate at which it would change even if the government did wouldn't be significant enough to have a substantial impact. Not to mention that most of these policies are an attempt to disguise a lack of reform in the industrial/power sectors. The article above does a great job explaining why this sort of rhetoric is purposefully misleading.

I think there's a MASSIVE difference between Formula/GT/Rally guys and guys who roll coal. True racing cars count for less than 1% of global emissions. The real problem is all the flights and transport necessary to get to the venues. The vehicles themselves are a blip on the radar.

Guys who roll coal are deliberately harming the environment for the sake of making a really stupid point.

Great job bashing the dems while contributing nothing of substance to the conversation. Do you have any points concerning Trump's or Harris' manufacturing policies? Also, per your last point, please tell me how that commenters grievances are illegitimate. Is it because they're trans?

He has just as much expertise as trump does, which is basically nothing.

Ah, yes, the old "consumers are the problem" rhetoric when, in actuality, they only account for 10% of emissions.