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As it turns out it doesn't actually cost that much on regular transit, there's an AIRPORT SURCHARGE because it's an "airport train".

No wonder Americans don't use public transit, even when the system exists it's ridiculously difficult and expensive to use.

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[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 18 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Wait... Employers don't cover travel cost to and from work in America..?

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Where do they cover your commuting costs? I've never heard of that.

[–] mogranja@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

In Brazil, it's pretty common for the employer to pay your transit fare to/from work. Often you can receive the same value directly instead if you choose to use another form of transportation.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Here in Paris, half of our transportation fee (carte Navigo, 87€ per month) is paid by the employer.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's common in multiple European countries.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

but also not common in multiple european countries

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Shit bruh, even here in the fucked up USA, plenty of places (in cities, anyway) subsidize commutes. My employer pays for half of my public transport costs.

[–] Entheon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nope, very rarely do you see them cover it at all. That's why we hate our 1+ hour drive commutes.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wtf? It's normal in the Netherlands...

Public transport will be the whole second class price. By car it is up to 23 cents per kilometer.

[–] Entheon@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Gosh that would be nice. Unfortunately we are stuck on simpler issues like "do kids deserve to eat at school", so it'll probably be a while before we get paid commute time.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

No they don’t

[–] Peaches@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

Pretty rarely, far as I know. I've seen some that cover public transit costs at least. It's more common for them to only reimburse costs for travel during work hours or for business related trips.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Where do employers cover the cost of sommuting?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Many do: I believe there is a tax incentive for them. I’ve only had it while working downtown, and in a white collar job. So not where you’d usually drive to work and not for hourly pay.

Given that there are very few required benefits, it can be fairly regressive. You don’t get help with transit unless you’re an aid enough. You don’t get better health coverage unless you’re paid enough.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Not in Canada either

[–] shifty@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not required. SF does have an ordinance to cover some costs depending on the number of employees. But its not some nationwide law.

If you're a fancy tech bro in SF all your costs are covered, health/dental/vision/life insurance, commuting stipend or govt subsidized account you get to put pre-tax money in and the company might match, matching contributions for your retirement 401K. The techbro class doesn't care about the cost of BART, many of them take an UBER for 3-4x the BART faire and not bat and eye at the bill (or use the company UBER account for free). If you're just some random minimum wage worker, you'd be lucky to live within an hour or two commute of SF and afford housing.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Surprisingly it is a national law, but it’s in the tax code as an optional benefit so it’s usually the better part paying jobs that get it, weirdly enough. Scroll to “commuter benefit)

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

I was a techbro in sf. I worked from home most days, but when I went to the office, I used Bart and my bicycle. It was great. I hate cars.

And, yes, I got the State to refund me for my monthly Bart pass

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

They do. You have to apply for it, and there's a ceiling per month.