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We haven't yet been able to ressurect anything by recreating vital signs in a corpse so there's something we can't measure or detect of life so far.
I'd argue that we can't do a resurrection because that's really complex, not because we don't know how.
I'll also point out that there are people alive today who were declared medically dead that live normal lives because we made their heart beat again.
The brain is a hard drive with only one working flash of the system
Yes, and those are rare cases and so far apart from "corrolates with time" it is hard to impossible to know for sure when someone is outside that window.
I was also under the illusion that we'd done a lot of experiments trying to reelecrifiy frogs' brains we have failed to get anywhere beyond muscle spasms off of the data and measurements we've been able to make.
For me the more important implication of Godel is that mathematics itself is countable and thus measure zero. No matter how much we do, the infinite majority of the unknown will still be left to explore... And that's just the math, not even talking about the dependent science (also measure zero). The unprovable stuff is just a tiny subset of this.
You know a lot more Maths than I do, and I agree with you (even if my thoughts in it all are more about having a fancy name to get people who claim both Positivism and "Maybe it's all a simulation man" to recognise the hypocrisy of that).
My whole life-data-mismatch thing is from similar discussions with positivists, as I think life and consciousness is a pretty easy area to show that it doesn't hold all the answers.
Back to the main point:
The idea that Maths is countable is pretty wild, and I'm gonna need to mull on it. Thanks for sharing.