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I don't get Maoists at all (lemmygrad.ml)

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Like, let's say that hypothetically China is not socialist. Why do they feel the need to equate it to the USA or to constantly diss it? Literally, no other country has 800 military bases abroad, and no other country will vulture the resources away from a fallen China like the USA would. So, being a Maoist to me just is helping the USA Intelligence departments. Literally, NATO and Western Imperialism are the main enemies, I don't get why some groups wouldn't want to take China as an ally. Even if they were ultra capitalist like the Maoist say, if the West falls is not like China would even be able to become the USA 2.0. They make up a dystopian future based on lies and fears and then equate that fake future to our current world, and end up equating an evil empire to a country that just wants to give the rest of the world another option.

Maoists feel like an "us vs the world" exclusive club to me

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

For some reason a lot of people, in the west especially, get very intellectual about this.

I think the materialist explanation is two fold.

Western Marxists are completely divorced from the real material struggle for socialism. Whether we read theory or not (and a lot don't) we don't have the actual lived experience of revolution or running socialist experiments.

And of course, imperial superprofits are redistributed to the labor aristocracy and bourgeoisified labor force in the imperial core. Anything which threatens this, like China, is in material contradiction to maintaining lavish first world lifestyles.

Both of these things are lessening. While the struggle for socialism in the West is still theoretical, we are connected with our comrades around the world and their struggle is ours.

And as the empire declines the limits to growth and superprofits mean a state of permanent austerity for the imperial core. That means the collapse of the labor aristocracy and debourgeoisification/proletarianisation of workers.

There's hope for them yet!