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this post was submitted on 28 Aug 2023
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I see the whole system as kind of flawed, like. If I think some topic or post is total bullshit and frankly, wrong, I'm supposed to comment to disagree with it, driving it further up in activity. So let's imagine a platform where everyone uses the system "how they're supposed to" and there's a post about blatant bullshit, supporting nazi ideology or some shit like that (exaggerated, but for a point) and it's dressed in the clothes of a well-mannered, discussion provoking post, and it gets a billion comments all disagreeing and it gets to the most active posts just because of this. When if it was downvoted, it'd just be more ignored the more people disagree with it.
I get the intention behind the reasoning for it, but it just doesn't work like that, because the whole system is flawed. The most active posts would be filled with thinly veiled and not so thinly veiled, even clever, ragebait and bullshit.
As much as I hate to see "tHe hIvEmInD" and brigaders flood posts and comments with actual, relevant conversation and takes, with this system we're just gonna have to deal with it I guess.
If a Nazi expresses their opinion in a civil manner and lots of other people express why they disagree with it, then… what exactly is the problem with the post getting attention?
Why give a nazi the stage? Why raise their opinions there? The points are and have been expressed in a civil manner for at least a century.
"If a holocaust denialist expresses their opinion in a civil manner why not give their point of view more attention"
"If a pedophile expresses their opinion in a civil manner why not give their point of view more attention"
"If a rapist expresses their opinion in a civil manner why not give their point of view more attention"
"If a misogynist/misandrist expresses their opinion in a civil manner why not give their point of view attention"
If this is seriously an issue you have a dilemma with I have nothing further to say to you.
These kinds of points of view get enough attention as it is. No one needs to give them any more.
Because if you use force to suppress people's opinions instead of rationally arguing with them, it gives the impression that they may have a good point.
Nope. Popper's Paradox of Tolerance.
You'll have to excuse the lack of elaboration but I'm kinda done of repeating myself when it comes to this topic.
You should ditch all qualms about losing the moral high ground over nazis. They don't give a fuck, and neither should you.
Come on, don't make me ~~tap the sign~~ post the Sartre quote, you know, the one that goes:
Not giving someone a platform on a stage is hardly using force to suppress people's opinions. Go parade nazism elsewhere, you have your platforms. I promise, when there's something worthwhile to read and respond to, people will.