this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2025
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GPT, DALL-E and AlphaGo are not the type of magic born from passion. They are the type of magic born by years of researchers doing the mostly boring work of science. Those are career people. They are just career researchers.
The current public AI scene is what happens when commercial interests take over. They can push the current state of the art to its limit, but aren't going to make any fundamental breakthroughs.
People mostly only accept the extremely shitty working conditions of the research industry if they have at least one of a lot of passion, extreme egomania, or independent wealth. Preferably more than one. Most of the people doing a research career do at least start out with a lot of passion.
Yeah. If you talked to any of these people toiling away in obscurity, they would never in a million years describe their work as boring. To an outsider, maybe.
its was 85% boring work and 15% interesting work. You cant just ignore the foundational work and that stuff doesnt just handle itself.
I can confirm.
Source: I lack passion (for research topics), and I lack independent wealth, and I direct my egomania in healthier directions than research.
I'll get into research when it pays better (likely never).
Exactly, they are a breakthrough built on top of decades of steadily paced progress. Those decades are conveniently ignored by the commercial interests, who like to act as if those once in a decade breakthroughs are actually the normal pace of research at their company, and the next one is right around the corner.
Ironically, that's exactly why all the greedy cunt executives think general AI is right around the corner... They haven't been paying attention and have no clue about the decades of research and development that got it this far.
Nor do they remember the previous AI boom of the 90's and 2000's, where the likes of Lernout & Hauspie were also promising the world. In that case they went bankrupt and executives were convicted of fraud, because they resorted to "creative" accounting to paper over solvency issues.