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DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Newsweek that the City of Glendale's decision was "deeply disturbing," and accused state officials of siding with criminals over public safety after unrest in Los Angeles.

Just so people are aware, this is the same rhetoric/same regurgitated talking points being used against "progressive" policies in blue cities within red states all over the country.

They are banking on an escalation of physical violence and confrontation that they will use as an excuse to establish a permanent federal and military force in California that will not be subject to any California state laws.

Why do I believe that? Because its how it happened in my own city to establish a permanent state police force that can't be regulated by any city or local ordinance.

They instigate and then argue that progressive policies have resulted in an emergency and chaos, that leaves them no choice but to step in and fix things by taking control.

They have been using takeovers of blue cities within red states as a testing ground for this kind of thing since Trump's first term.

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[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

When you're left with no other alternative, then yes. Why not try to form a coalition of Americans that will stand together against Trump before we dissolve into a second civil war where individual blue states are going against the entire U.S. government?

How about some support from other blue states and jurisdictions? Where are the calls for blue states senators and representatives to vocally stand with California, where are the mayors and city councils willing to follow Glendale's example?

Sending people into a suicide mission without actually backing them up, is like supporting a war you're not fighting in (yet). When it's your turn, you will hope that others will stand with you instead of remotely egging you on to be David against Goliath.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 3 days ago

Why not try to form a coalition of Americans that will stand together against Trump ...

That's been going on a long time already, and the coalition of Americans willing to stand with fascism, or turn a blind eye to it, has only increased in size.

Fourth box.

When it's your turn, you will hope that others will stand with you instead of remotely egging you on to be David against Goliath.

It's already my turn. It's your turn, too. Look for opportunities to resist where and when you can, to whatever extent you can. Frontline soldiers make up a tiny fraction of the people necessary to win a war. You can stand with resistance, even armed resistance, in many more ways than charging into battle yourself.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They've already deployed troops. Blue states banding together to say "please don't invade us" will do absolutely nothing to stop him deploying troops, especially when the only problem Trump has with Blue States is that they are Blue.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is the beginning. He wants an excuse to declare martial law.

He's still holding back and being strategic at this point, once he establishes a permanent military branch to oversee California that's when shit really hits the fan.

Getting all blue states and jurisdictions to start withholding federal taxes until we have a federal government who is actually representing us again, is a much better plan than telling a bunch of civilians to go fight the military. You are literally sending people to be slaughtered and kick off a second civil war, but I'm pretty sure you're probably fully aware of that.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

He doesn't need an excuse.

How do you propose blue states "withhold federal taxes?" I pay my federal taxes to the fed directly, not through my state. Do states have mechanisms to prevent their citizens and businesses from doing the same?

I'm not sending anyone to do anything. I'm just pointing out that if a military is gathering at your city that's a clear sign of you being invaded, and that asking them nicely to stop will accomplish nothing. In this case the first military to show up in the city is the US military, not a foreign one, but that's not a difference worthy of distinction.

Feel free to stop paying your taxes if you want, but no rights were ever won or secured without violence (no distinction here about whether that's on or by protestors).