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Facebook advertised a professional child kidnapping service to me (www.nextstepyouthtransport.com)

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Pretty sure they blocked me after I commented, so no screenshot.

The US essentially has no restrictions on what parents can do to their children, or pay to have done to them. These companies will show up at night, and take a child out of their bed at night. They explicitly tell parents not to warn the kid what will happen.

Imagine being woken up in the middle of the night, maybe forced to quickly pack, and then be loaded in a van. You have no idea where you are going or why or who or what is going on. You get taken to a facility which is basically a cult. You might be dumped out in rural Utah, with people that have zero training in wilderness safety, who might punish you by denying you food and water.

Children die in these places all the fucking time. There generally is no state or federal oversight of these facilities - so there aren’t really investigations. These places are havens for child predators.

When I was sexually abused at a similar facility and tried to report it - I was placed on heavy doses of antipsychotics in retaliation. They drugged me unconscious, and then punished me for sleeping during “class.” As an adult, I have involuntary shakes and movements associated with the medical malpractice enacted on me.

These places don’t get investigated, they don’t get shut down. I think Utah is one of the only states with any form of agency that watches over these places. Child protective services won’t go in, health care agencies won’t go in.

Children have no rights in the US. They are the property of their parents, to be disposed of as they wish. And fuckers like this agency are delighted to kidnap children that their parents can’t be assed to parent.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wtf is Elan and why am I only hearing about this now?

Where's the Johbn Oliver episode about this? Still in production?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Elan was thankfully finally shut down in 2011, so it’s no longer destroying children. Just took four decades!

The big issue, as I campaign to get my own torturers facility closed down, is that they weaponize privacy laws. Both the facilities and the state. They pretend they are protecting children by refusing to investigate. The double speak is fucking insane.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good to hear it's been shut down at least.

Both the facilities and the state. They pretend they are protecting children by refusing to investigate. The double speak is fucking insane.

Yeah I know about bureaucratic fuckery as well. It's very different here in Finland, but the insanity of how the system actually works is pretty mindblowing in some cases. The worst part is that no-one believes me though, as "that sort of thing doesn't happen in Finland." In the US you can at least find someone who believes in the right thing, even if most people don't. Like it's big enough that someone will agree with you. Haven't found anyone in Finland yet.

Thanks for those links, I got to read more into this shit. Won't be expecting a John Oliver episode though, if it's not a "hot issue".

Tbh I think they weaponise all laws. Laws really don't matter to them. Well, laws do, justice doesn't. I've found that out. Laws only matter if you have practically limitless funds so you can actually make the argument for your rights. When you don't, there's no fucking justice. So depressing.

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Realizing the power imbalance inherent in contract law was a major radicalizing force in my life. I believe Hobbesian and Lockean theories of social contracts are still so widely taught in U.S. civics classes (uncertain of their global reach in schools) because it’s important to convince kids early on that people choose to enter into these agreements with larger power structures for their own good. If that view isn’t ingrained deep within your self then you’ll realize how absurd it is to enter into a legally binding contract with a party that has all the power in the relationship. Why would you?! They write the language, they limit your rights, they reserve the right to change the agreement, they reserve the right to terminate the arrangement. Companies, countries, it’s all from the same playbook. If you break it, fines or jail. If they break it, good luck. If it’s not enumerated in the document it doesn’t matter because they fall back on their power to do what they please anyway. It’s wielded as a weapon that forces you to accept the status quo under threat of retaliation. How do you assert your right to anything in this system? Playing along by paying for someone to represent you and asserting your belief in and support of the legal structure that has disenfranchised you, of course. You still don’t even have a seat at the table.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

How do you assert your right to anything in this system?

Yeah it's just ridiculous. The most ridiculous thing in the recent years has been browsing the web anywhere where the new EU EULA laws apply.

Now it's become less so, but it still for most sites often takes literally 15 minutes to go and click off all the "legitimate interest" bits. Just like straight up wanting to refused everything is taking me longer than it would to load that site on 56k. And that's not even to begin to consider that someone would actually read the hundreds of pages of all this hundreds of different deals. For every fucking website. It's literally impossible to make an informed decision about any of those deals or agreements, because there's just too much fucking info.

I've literally quoted the law at Finnish authorities and tried contacting journalists and politicians, and I'm still yet to find a single person who would be even willing to accept that the cops did something illegal. I don't need for them to change the past, but stop fucking gaslighting me about how the present works when I'm showing you photographic evidence you're ignoring.

Youknow?

Even when literally caught in the act, even when I have black on white about them saying something that is clearly inaccurate, they'll just ignore their mistake. And usually blame me. Even my mom implicitly victim blames me.

Fucking society, being ruined by greedy psychopaths

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

There's two episodes about this on Behind the Bastards. Fucking heartbreaking!