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Torture and Forced Disappearances: Inside Wagner’s Secret Prisons in Mali (forbiddenstories.org)

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Since arriving in Mali in 2021, Russian Wagner mercenaries have abducted and detained hundreds of civilians in former UN bases and military camps shared with the Malian army. Our investigation, as part of the Viktoriia project, reveals secret prisons where abuse and torture are carried out with total impunity.

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[–] Red_Scare@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, Wagner is a private military founded by a Nazi, it includes openly neonazi outfits like Rusich, are we surprised they would commit crimes on the African population?

Also I think dismissing everything coming from mainstream Western media as a hoax is counterproductive. Clearly they have an axe to grind but that doesn't mean those crimes didn't happen.

The article ends with a statement that once Wagner left and got replaced by Africa Corps which unlike Wagner is directly overseen by the Russian Ministry of Defense, crimes ended (they call it a "lull in atrocities", the language is definitely charged but we should be able to look past that)

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a good take. The best response here is "I need to see a credible source before I believe this," not "this is a bad source so there is absolutely no way this can be true."

Propaganda isn't necessarily false just because it is being curated and published with the intent to support a narrative. The best propaganda (really the only good propaganda) is true.

[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago

The best propaganda (really the only good propaganda) is true.

You can see a lot of this in western propaganda, but a lot of it is just the propaganda accusing the other side of what the west is actually doing.

So yeah, it could be that the story is true. It could also be that it's just the west accusing others of what they are/were doing like it happens a lot. Or it could even be both cases, but this isn't evidnce of anything (although I would be very surprised if the projection hypothesis isn't true).