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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just saw that video and it is really strange. Not so much that rat hasn't been deployed, I don't think they lost hydraulics or electronics and I'm not sure they even reached the minimum speed where the rat would really help.

The strange thing is that it didn't really look like there was very much yaw or rolling which you would expect to see with a fuel system failure. They seemed to be flying straight as an arrow and gliding it down?

Maybe something wrong with thrust control? Kinda crazy.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is it common for CCTV to track and follow all planes as they take off like the camera in this video seems to be?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

I think that's editing, rather than something the camera did.

[–] 9blb@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can see a mouse cursor in the video. Someone is manually zooming in and following the plane, likely while reviewing the footage.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, OK yeah that makes sense.

I don't know for sure, but I imagine all airports have a bunch of cameras. To me it looks like it was a wider shot and someone went and focused on it through the NVR.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah,I am not sure if there is a safety interlock with Boeing RATs(and the video is really bad)...so it might be intentional.

It's strange. Personally I currently go with water in the fuel system as the "most likely guess by a armchair pilot"(me),but wouldn't also be surprised being it an electronic error. When that would be the case Boeing would be fucked beyond repair,imho.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dude the plane is 13 years old. If there was a mechanical problem with the plane its on Air India, and I say that as a certified Airbus fanboy.

John Barnett said that the corner cutting during construction would culminate in a crash after 10 to 12 years.

https://prospect.org/economy/2025-06-12-dreamliner-gave-boeing-manager-nightmares-just-crashed-air-india/

[–] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. Faults often don't get detected early,need certain circumstances (swiss cheese model) or quite simply, are caused by replacement parts. There is a long chain of things that could fall into Boeing responsibility - and even if it doesn't the market does not always react reasonably.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We will see I suppose. Your last sentence is most certainly true in any case but I will stand by the fact that after 13 years a mechanical problem will much more likely be due to bad maintenance- especially given AIs difficult track record in that regard.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, absolutely, AI has issues- that's why I narrowed my "Boeings fa**ult" down to electronics/software. There isn't too much maintenance they can fuck up in that department that can kill both engines(afaik). In other parts like fuel,fuel distribution,etc? Totally different.

My bet is still on sometimes with the fuel, though. Maybe water in the fuel.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

My suspicion is fuel contamination as well. Just terrible all around. Hope we get some facts from the investigation rather soon.

Something wrong with the fuel system was my initial armchair guess, but I'm not so sure based off the second vid. One would expect to see some yaw or rolling in an underpowered or lost of power take off with a jet.

Guess we'll have to wait until someone more qualified explains it.