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[–] yagurlreese@lemmy.world 179 points 1 month ago (2 children)

wow so sad, it's almost like they started multiple wars or something

[–] SupaTuba@lemm.ee 51 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I feel terrible for every citizen killed or made homeless/jobless because of this.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 month ago

Hopefully they take the opportunity for a fresh start and move out of the settler occupation of Palestine.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (15 children)

If they voted for Netanyahu they asked for it, and I have no sympathy.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

The rest would do the same.
As they always have proven their entire miserable history.
Singling out Netanyahoo is Bernie the sheepdog's tactics of dammage control

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fun fact: every citizen of the entity is considered a reservist so there ARE no civilians! If you're a settler you're a valid target no matter what!

[–] lenz@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk man. If you’re a child, a unhoused, or a otherwise a person without the economic means to leave because your ancestors were settlers and you just so happened to be born in the colonized land, I’d consider you a civilian. I think your view is too black and white.

Screw you if you’re a deliberate Zionist benefiting from genocide though.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Israelis aren't walled in and prevented from leaving like Palestinians are in Gaza.

Israelis have no practical excuse to continue their occupation, especially when everyone is forced to serve in the IDF to actively aid the occupation rather than just passively.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (8 children)

As long as they are not on active duty, they shouldn't be targets. And if they are forced to serve, they should still only be killed if they are an active threat. Normally, they should first be offered to surrender.

Hope you're acting ironic and do not actually call to genocide all Jews in Israel.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No, but all Israelis that are zionists maybe.

Zionists are not Jewish people, they are actually against Judaism.

I believe it's the Talmud that says Israel cannot exist until the messiah returns. This is why you have many religious Jews in the US against the state of Israel.

Zionists are the one and only antisemites.

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[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I don’t want to talk ethics, but as a rule of thumb, winning a war is easier if you take out strategic targets than if you target civilians. Targeting civilians is what you do if your weapons aren’t precise enough to target tanks/planes etc.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

every citizen in Palestine and Iran too right?

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Shouldn't be a citizen on stolen land.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't think they care much. Or about anything except themselves for that matter.
The most navel staring country on the planet

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The reason the US supports Israel is exactly because Israel is a settler-colony. They're part of the same genocidal settler project, Zionism is Manifest Destiny.

If landback wins in Israel the ones paying attention know that it's coming for them too.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (10 children)

It's also a geographically beneficial located proxy.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But they didn't have to make a colony of European settlers to do that, did they? Egypt is a loyal collaborator with the US and it fulfills the same geostrategic goals, but the amount of support Egypt gets pales in comparison to Israel. Why is that?

We can't dismiss the ideological importance of Israel. The unlimited support of the 51st state is exactly because it is a settler-colony.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see many ethnic Egyptians in places of power that can influence policy or get laws voted concerning their country.
Egypt hasn't always been loyal, certainly not the population.
They overthrew the previous puppet despite US efforts to keep him in place.
When they saw it was hopeless they threw him under the bus and 'supported' the arab spring movement.
In reality they hijacked the revolution and simply put another puppet in place.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Settler-colonialism isn't just about who is in power (although it is about that). That's just regular colonialism, like French Algeria.

Settler-colonialism is about importing settlers to replace the indigenous population while enacting genocidal policies to exterminate or expell the indigenous population. Egypt isn't experiencing that.

That's why Egypt doesn't get the level of support that Israel does.

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[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago
[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Manifest destiny said the US land is all ours. Also Hawaii. Divine right mandated by God, so..

/s

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[–] martin4598@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just a reminder: 82% of all the Israeli Jews support ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

Just saying.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It feels like there's reason to inflate those numbers both for Israel and Palestine. Do we know they're credible? Genuinely asking, I'm not sure from my cursory searx.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What kind of citizen? Palestinian? Iranian?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

I don't. I only feel terrible for the ones who were opposed to these attacks on other countries. Most of them (if the statistics I've seen are to be believed) support the actions, so they deserve the consequences. Maybe these people dying horrifically will finally make others consider the value of lives.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 month ago

What they can't do some wars and genocide now???