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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 99 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What? This BETTER not be US funded Research! I DONT want MY Tax Dollars going to THIS when there's SAD BILLIONAIRES still out there!

-LITERALLY everyone who Voted for Trump!

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Trump also got the covid vaccine invented, produced, and distributed. It was probably the greatest thing he ever did but now he doesn't even want to be associated with it. Alas. His lunacy knows no bounds.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes and no, warp speed only needed to exist in the form it did because Trump had fired the existing pandemic response team.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Good point. On the other hand, Canada didn't fare any better even without firing its pandemic response team. I suspect project warp speed would have been welcomed either way, even if it was more important in this timeline.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 hours ago

A million americans died of COVID (yes, some of them would have died without); but half a million would still be very bad.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why should the world benefit from our taxpayer funded research? I want my taxes spent on training Americans so as to let the world watch (for free) fast running and swimming.

Am still waiting for a skipping event in the Olympics.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The world isn't benefitting from your research, you benefit from the world's research based off your own research, on and on it goes and we all get smarter and know more and strive towards bettering our condition, curing our ills and minimizing suffering and maximizing happiness for all.

At least in my opinion it's why scientific research while a truly neutral morally activity and generally done as an end unto itself - from a broadly humanist standpoint - is worth pursuing, even when the immediate benefits aren't seen by the shortsighted.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Even if we were the only country researching...

I have heard GOP politicians saying something like "why should we fund a cure for a disease and everyone else benefits without spending a cent?"

Why doesn't their national pride on the world stage extend beyond sport?

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because that wouldn't make as much money.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Olympic gold medals don't make money. It is for national pride. Even hosting the games does not always make money.

Actually I am Aussie. 12 years ago it was calculated that each gold medal costs us AU$12m (so about US$11m in today's money). It embarrasses me.

https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/they-kill-us-for-their-sport-williamson-laments-arts-funding-cuts-20121115-29ejt.html

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I am no fan of Eurovision but it is good value for national pride:

Eurovision is funded by participating broadcasters and this contribution is a total of €6.2 million (£5.2 million), combined.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/who-funds-eurovision-song-contest-24173525

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only 6M €? For an event of that size that feels a lot cheaper than I would have thought.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't forget that there is also income from advertising and ticket sales.