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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

As plainly I can put it:

The nation-states of Iran and Israel have a "right to exist", inasmuch as they actually serve the interests of the people they claim to govern within internationally recognized territorial borders.

The regimes that hold power in those nation-states must be tried for crimes against humanity and executed as war-criminals.

They will reap what they've sown in this messianic decades-long tit-for-tat, and I will drink to their demise, assuming they don't drag the world into nuclear armageddon.

We fundamentally see geopolitical culpability in that region completely differently.

You: Zionists are worse than Islamists.

Me: They're equally horrific, and I hope they both die.

We're at an impasse.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

We're not necessarily at an impasse! Use facts to back up your assertions about Iran. Give examples. Argue for your position. Personally I would really appreciate that, because I'm very open to the possibility of being wrong! I know the basics of Iranian history, so there's probably a lot that I don't know that could convince me that they're at the same magnitude of badness as Israel. And if you're basing the idea that Iran is as bad as Israel on actual historical facts, and not just pulling it out of your ass as you're currently making it seem, I could stand to learn a lot from you, and you could convince someone of your position. That's a win-win.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

To be clear, you are asking me to list the crimes of the Shi-ah Islamist regime in Iran since their revolution in the '70s?

If so, I can try, but I must work first. I can compile it after the day is finished.