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[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not blaming "every single individual person". I'm blaming "the American people", who elected trump. Twice.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I'm not even sure you know what you are trying to say.

"The American People" includes every single individual person who lives in the U.S. Your statement is a non sequitur.

I certainly didn't elect Trump, either time. Neither did my fellow leftists. Not a single leftist voted for Trump, guaranteed.

It's also obvious you aren't arguing in good faith, so I'm way past the point of giving your lame ass trolling the benefit of the doubt.

Get help.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually. Like BP is responsible for an oil spill, but Joe the janitor of the local gas station isn't.

Public education in the US really sucks, huh?

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually.

What an ignorant statement lmfao. When you blame an entire group of people for something, that includes all of the individuals within that group. It's like if you said "All Berries are gross" but then I say "What about Blueberries" and you respond with "I didn't mean Blueberries". If you said "Most Berries are gross" or "Some Berries are gross" or "All Berries are gross with the exception of Blueberries" that would be a different story, because words have meanings.

"The American People" are no more responsible for Trump being elected than "The German People" were responsible for the Nazi's or "Everyone who works for BP" is responsible for Oil spills.

Your lame attempt to use semantic wordplay to backpedal your moronic "Leftists Got Trump Elected" claim might have held more weight if the context of the entire conversation wasn't already which specific groups within the U.S. are responsible for Trump being elected.

Blaming "U.S. Leftists" for Trump is every bit as reasonable as blaming "The White Rose" for the Nazi's or "Joe the Janitor" for the Deepwater Horizon. My assertion that lumping all Americans together as if we are a homogeneous group is reductive, myopic, and ignorant stands.

Public education in the US really sucks, huh?

It sure does, my guess is you were 'educated' here and were bougie enough to afford to emigrate to somewhere in Europe that is a much more normal place to live than the U.S. and now you sit around in your place of privilege judging the people in the country you abandoned when you aren't sniffing your own farts. It's either that or you are one of those uppity Europeans who believes your country has always been perfect and you are better than Americans because you happened to not be born in crazy town and your education system isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Congratulations on your sense of superiority, I'm sure you believe you have earned it.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What on earth makes you remotely think I'm American?? Holy molly.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe because you are speaking of things that you obviously haven't the foggiest clue about as if you are an expert on them.

If you are saying you aren't American, that's sad. I guess the Education systems in Europe aren't as grand as they are made out to be.

You know where I'm from, don't be a coward- state where you are from- I'm sure your country and people are 100% perfect and always have been.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yes, it is quite Ironic that you seem to spend all your time online criticizing the U.S. when you are too much of a chicken shit to even mention where you are from. Weird. I wonder why that is?

What a fucking minute, you are a god damn Kraut aren't you? LMFAO 🤣 No wonder you wouldn't say. This is too precious.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

If by Kraut you mean German, then no, but I do speak the language. Do you automatically assume someone is from a country they speak the language of? You will have to go much deeper into my comment history to find out. Have fun!

Not that is relevant in any way to the discussion how the American voters chose trump and now are trying to blame anyone by themselves. The DNC! The jews! The Russians! Soros! The billionaires!

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 33 minutes ago

Don't bullshit me Jerry, and don't flatter yourself.

I really don't give a shit what you are about, you are clearly a foreign agent trying to influence American politics with strawman arguments and only the most superficial understanding of how things work, so your opinion means less than nothing.

You sound just like a MAGAt, ignoring facts just to trumpet your own sad version of reality. Pathetic