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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
  • W. Bush says Iran is in Axis of Evil bullshit basically telling Iran "you're next!" while invading Iraq. Iran starts a nuclear program in response.
  • Obama fixed things by making a treaty with Iran, and got the Nobel Peace Prize (though not in that order which was a bit weird, but whatever)
  • Trump cancels that treaty and assassinates an Iranian General
  • Biden tries to restore the Obama treaty, but Iran doesn't trust the US (wonder why?). So no treaty, but also no war with Iran.
  • Trump gets in again drops some really big bombs on Iran

"BOTH SIDES!" say both the MAGAs and leftists in unison.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, you're right. I'm sure the Democrats would not have supported Israel in Iran, same as how they didn't support Israel in Yemen, or in Lebanon, or in Gaza, or in Syria, or in...

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

If Kamala had won, I (trans latina) would not have had to flee the US. But they're both the exact same amirite? (I'm honestly a little grateful for that. The US is trash. I'm never moving back)

Edit: my point is that people are literally fleeing the US because it's a sinking ship. Under Kamala, immigration and tourism wouldn't have changed much

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

"I would be alright".

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...Here's a thought exercise for you: The year is 2028, Trump is running for a third term, and the Dem ticket is... IDK, Newsom/Buttigieg or whatever, and the big thinkers of the DNC have come up with a foolproof plan to steal away MAGA voters: they will agree with exterminating trans people, but! BUT! will firmly, and I mean FIRMLY stand behind gay marriage. And you're trying to explain that both of those choices are unacceptable to you, and in response are met with an avalanche of mockery because "sure, yeah, one side wants gay marriage banned, but they’re both the exact same amirite?"

Seriously, though, best of luck. Not to assume stuff about your situation, but getting out sooner rather than later sounds like a good move.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

Here’s a thought exercise for you:

Try it for a fucking change.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're doing the leftist reductive thing so complex issues become a simplistic "it's all the system, man..."

This doesn't make you look as clever as you think it does. It'll eventually turn you into a conspiracy nut where everything is because of "them". Please make an effort to stay on topic.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Oh, it's not the "system, man", it's you. As in, you, @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca, personally. You are the exact person I'm thinking about when I say this, and it's frankly amazing you decided to throw your hat in ring here, while simultaneously defending attacks on Iran elsewhere.