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Alternate history is one of my favorite topics, and I’m curious to hear your thoughts.

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

In a world where the axis won, they would have taken a sizable portion of the middle east to secure oil for the war, so the region would look very different.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Germany was not interested in the Middle East. They wanted Lebensraum in Eastern Europe and Russia. The Gulf Monarchies would have sold them oil in the same way they have been doing to the US as hegemon. There may have been joint ventures like Saudi Aramco but there wouldn't have been CIA coups and regime changes because there would be no Soviet threat.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 hours ago

The Gulf Monarchies would have sold them oil in the same way they have been doing to the US as hegemon.

And the USA has significantly intervened in Middle East politics.

It is likely that Nazi Germany would intervene in the Middle East to secure its oil; the various nation-states were still forming and borders were somewhat volatile. Germany would likely intervene to ensure that the oil flows.

Also, after a while, the German state would need another infusion of money and cheap Arab oil would be a perfect resource to bring under control of the Nazi state.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

Germany was actively trying to get some level of control over middle east oil during the war. Their failure to secure reliable and plentiful oil is a big reason they lost. The campaigns in north Africa were largely about control of Egypt and the Suez canal. Part of the invasion to Soviet lands was also opening a route to the middle east.