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[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Have you heard of our lord and savor, Waterfox?

Free thyself from the Mozilla Corporation

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lol, all FF derivatives still rely on Mozilla for maintaining the browser engine. One of the most complicated pieces of software to develop, and there's only 3 fully operational ones. Chrome, Safaris Webkit and FFs Gecko. MS gave up on their engine because it was so difficult to maintain.

Should Mozilla go full tilt enshittification and close the source or something, all the derivatives will wither and die.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Safari's WebKit isn't Apple's though. It was built around KHTML, from KDE.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True, but, KHTML hasn't been developed now for a decade.

Iirc, the Chrome engine is a fork of KHTML as well.

There's also open source Servo engine, which kinda works ok for specific use cases

And there's Ladybird browser, the first browser with a from-scratch browser engine, it started 5 or 6 years ago and isn't targeting its first alpha until 2027

Those are the 2 closest to being ready for "Average Joe Usage" and they are not even close to being ready for prime time.

Chrome uses a fork of WebKit (Safari), which is a fork of KHTML, IIRC.

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