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Syndicalism. Farmers co-ops. Food from your lawn.
Not really elaborating on that much... Not everyone can afford to drive out to the country to work on a farm for food, and a lot of people don't have lawns.
I’m not saying a post reply on lemmy will cover what I mean or fix everything ; but my examples are things we can start with and they don’t hurt. Recovery from capitalism will take a long time.
Look, I'm all for dismantling capitalism, but you do your cause disservice if you criticize something, act like you have the answers, and then don't deliver. If you don't have the answers just say so up front.
is it a disservice to the slave to leave his chains or even discuss it, even if he has nowhere to go after?
"Complaining about a problem without posing a solution is called whining." Teddy Roosevelt
I'm not saying to not discuss it. I'm not saying to stay a slave.
When were talking about people needing to eat, though, you're gonna need some solutions if you want to enact change. No one can do a revolution on an empty stomach, and if you're going to hand wave basic survival, you're not going to get anyone to follow you.
i don’t understand. i mentioned some starter solutions. Do you want a logistical breakdown soup to nuts? You can confer with greater minds than mine for that.
Personally I do what I can. I help my neighbors and my community at large, as best as I can. And I support where I can, too.
Those weren't feasible solutions at all.
80% or so of America lives in cities. So they aren't going to be able to use a coop farm and a lot of them don't have land to grow anything on.
Also farming isn't something anyone can pick up. Sure, harvesting is pretty easy to learn, but for massive scale farming that we need to survive, you need specialized equipment, training and tools. Things most people just don't have.
Your "solutions" are hand waving ideas that haven't been thought through in the slightest.
They won't work.
Again, just to make sure I'm crystal here, I'm so for dismantling the insane capitalistic system we have, stopping the exploitation of farm workers, reforming our food industry, etc. I really super am on your side here. But if we want those changes you're gonna have to actually think through the solutions you're giving people and not just give some nothing burgers like these.
what stops coop farms from bringing goods to cities?
also people have created solutions. they exist in the writings of folks like engels, etc.
Not having all the solutions should not stop people from recognizing things are shit.
Don’t gatekeep the emotional connection and instead ask leading questions.
Have you talked to the average American about agriculture? They would starve themselves in a few months.
Also, you would have to come up with rules on who grows what and how seed savings would work. You need to keep things that can cross pollinate away from each other.
Now you know the point of Leviticus 19:19 and Deuteronomy 22:9.