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Russia is a right wing plutocracy and isn't using the aesthetics of socialism, so is this about China and not Russia/Ukraine?
Russia, china etc... Things taht tankies support
How do you personally oppose US imperialism? Do you support "things" like Palestine? Does that make you an Islamist or against LGBTQ or an anti-semite?
Maybe by buying local things, supporting local businesses, detachemnt from the US etc... But not by supporting Russia or their friends
Well ultimately there is little any of us can do. The mainstream narrative is controlled by the plutocrats and US empire, and that controls the outcome of elections.
Do you think criticizing the US involvement or meddling in other democracies and their support with intelligence and weapons in Ukraine, would this criticism be support for Russia? Even if the facts are verifiable?
Do you think criticizing Russia for their meddling and invasion is supporting the US empire?
I believe we must do both. Like criticizing the US and Israel and also criticizing the Islamism of Hamas and their terrorist October 7 attacks. Same with Iran or China.
I also agree that Russia is much worse than those examples (e.g. supporting climate denial and Trump). I just don't think keeping the meatgrinder in Ukraine going is worth suppressing any discussion about diplomatic solutions - or suppressing the truth of how we got here.
Ah yes, things would be so much better if Ukraine would just roll over and let Russia commit genocide. Then it wouldn't be a meatgrinder, because only one side would be dying! Progress! /s
Oh please, do tell how we got there! I'm feeling giddy!
Are you asking for advice, or are you asking to justify the "office" meme?
Both honestly. I'm curious how people mean to oppose US imperialism, and how they mean to criticize US Empire and their meddling while avoiding the "Russia supporter" label. I suspect the answer is either:
a) Russia is the worst imperialist, Putin is like Hitler and any diplomatic solution is futile because they never keep to their deals and will invade Europe and others if unchecked. So we have to shield the US empire from criticism in this case because it's the lesser of two evils
b) Any opposition to more weapon and materiel support for Ukraine makes the war take longer and cause more damage, and if criticism of US role in Ukraine were to vanish, Ukraine could win the war quickly
c) Because there has been so much agitprop that Russia pumped into the internet for the last two decades, and because of paranoia that everyone is a bot or a shill, arguing about this is as pointless as arguing with a climate denialist. The left is only going to accept mainstream liberal news and "safe" majority social media trends and reject anything else out of hand. Nobody has time and energy searching and reading and analyzing the dissident views.
Obviously I don't agree with either of those, but I'm honestly curious and maybe I've missed something.
... by criticizing US imperialism without playing apologist for Russian imperialism. I didn't realize this was hard.