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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 148 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Wait bottom mathematican is using j=√-1 instead of i and not the engineer? Because I'm EE gang, and all my homies use j.

[–] GandalfTheDumb@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That part also got me really confused. All the mathematicans I know use i while engineers use i or j depending on the kind of engineer. I've never seen a Pikachu engineer using anything other than j.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 days ago

Pikachu engineer

That's a fucking favorite now. Keeping that in my back pocket.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

OPs boyfriend is obviously an i engineer and hates j engineers. No one can stay angry at mathematicians - engineers on the other hand...

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The fun starts when you study quaternions

i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = −1

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

(...I think you may have gotten whooshed...)

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hehe, maybe a little, but wanted to share just in case someone didn't know :3

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I clicked your link, I barely made it out of highschool so I have no idea what any of it means, but I like reading things I shouldn't understand anyway, sometines it's so interesting even without understanding.

So I thank you!

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Quaternions are the closest we get to lovecraftian horror in real life.

Four dimensional and mostly imaginary, they were carved into a stone bridge by a crazy mathematician in a fit of madness, Lord Kelvin called them "unmixed evil", and the Mad Hatter from Alice may have been inspired by them.

Also they have been a curiosity at best for a long time, despite the efforts of a ~~secret~~ Quaternion Society, but they suddenly blew up in usefulness in modern times as they happen to be an easy and fast way for computers to describe rotations in 3D space, so they're everywhere.

Yeah, lovecraftian as shit.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It gets worse actually. You can define a number system using any power of 2 amount of i-like units in a similar relationship to quaternions using the Cayley-Dickson construction

Fascinatingly, you lose some property of the algebra at each step. Quaternions aren't commutative: ABC != CBA. Octonians aren't associative: (AB)C != A(BC). Once you get into 16 i's with subscripts, it really gets crazy.

(Also, I just got the joke. Damnit @HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone your serious answer threw me off!)

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hehe, yeah, the joke was too good :P

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Maybe a bit too complex for its own good.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

this isn't real

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I agree. Clearly i is current. What is this i=√-1 nonsense.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago

[Lapsed] mechanical engineering gang checking in. I was also surprised. Though, tbh, I think it came down to personal preference of the professor more than field-wide consensus.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

a real mathematician would use (0, 1) instead of i