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Lawyers for the plaintiff argue that Tesla’s driver-assistance feature called Autopilot should have warned the driver and braked when his Model S sedan blew through flashing red lights, a stop sign and a T-intersection at nearly 70 miles an hour in the April 2019 crash. Tesla lays the blame solely on the driver, who was reaching for a dropped cell phone.

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[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or is auto-braking always enabled? Lots of non-self-driving/non-lane-keeping cars still have separate auto braking. I would assume, I would hope, auto braking is functional without autopilot needing to be engaged...

Terms used loosely. I don't have faith in the visual-only tesla system. But if you're an average driver, I could certainly see having high expectations for auto braking. I'm not talking about absolving the driver, I'm talking about bettering driver understanding through appropriate terminology for products but, I know, I'm an idiot for dreaming of such.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

All Teslas have AEB (automatic emergency braking) which is active at all times.

It's not a stop for a light or stop sign type thing, but it will try to slow the vehicle if a crash is imminent.

Never expect AEB in any car to reliably prevent a crash. That's not it's main purpose. Reducing speeds is. It will have more success at prevention at slower speeds.

Edit: You can watch the EURO NCAP testing of it here on the 2025 Model 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og-jlzUoF1o

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right, I wasn't expecting it to read road signs. I guess I was assuming there'd be things along the way it should react to. I used to see subaru aeb testing done with a traffic cone. But, with no details, I should be assuming anything about the presence of objects prior to hitting the people. The Mark Rover video showed the autopilot will continue anyway once the "object" is no longer in sight of the system

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Mark Rover video showed the autopilot will continue anyway once the “object” is no longer in sight of the system

Ya, it would definitely do that, it's just traffic aware cruise control. It's probably part of why autopilot will turn itself off when a collision is imminent, because it'd probably just drive off after if it didn't. It's clear ahead? Go! I think the other reason is I think the true AEB system (not AP deciding to stop, but the AEB mechanism that's always on) overrides it, and turns it off. Like the two are mutually exclusive systems. That's just a hypothesis though. Simply ensuring the vehicle doesn't continue after might be reason enough.