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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Getting too close to comfort for you?

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

no, it's a novel, it's a work of fiction, not a piece of theory or history that you can quote, the ending and the world is entirely built by the writer, there's no study it's literally arguments made up by the writer based on no sources or research, anyone can write a dystopian story, I could write a dystopian story and quote it right now, it's not argument, it's stupid.

You know, in my novel of people who quote novels ending up as nazis, you do resemble it a lot.

/\ as valid as using a novel like 1984 or animal farm or whatever else as an argument

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

1984 and Brave New World are allegories based on real life social observations and events. So, yes, they are based on history. They are famous for a reason. It is just that you find it too close to comfort.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're famous because the US regime uses them to indoctrinate children in their flag pledging factories

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think I heard Americans pledge in the name of Huxley and Orwell.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

are you being deliberately stupid as a joke right now?

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

my 3 sentence novel is also based on observing you.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, anyone right of you is a Nazi.

How original. Pulitzer prize winning.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like you found it too close for comfort

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

Anyone who criticizes your usage of novels as meaning anything got hit close home

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not history, but it's certainly theory. The study it's based on is through observations of reality. When comparing something to one of these books, we're testing their observations by comparing them to reality. Incidentally, it gets brought up a lot when an event, occurrence, or vector in society begins to resemble these books too closely.

Your hyperbole of people quoting books all being nazis, on the other hand, is very easily disproven.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"this is giving boss baby vibes" except actually trying to make a point out of it

Your hyperbole of people quoting books all being nazis

Only the dumbest fucking people pull this shit and you are as fucking stupid as can be measured

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Considering what you measure with, that doesn't have much meaning.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Explain to me how you think I'm measuring, fuckwit. You have a judgement on a thing, you should be able to articulate what that thing is, right?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Badly; as someone who is culturally illiterate, lacks the skills of observation to make any determination (whether it be about myself or the subject of the world around us), is incapable of actually making any arguments, and so uses "colourful language" in a juvenile attempt to cover up their shortcomings.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The question I asked you was to explain the method by which I was making a judgement, which you presumed to know.

Can you answer it, stupid? Or are we going to get another paragraph about how you being snide is supposed to obscure the fact that you can't maintain a coherent thought throughout one of your posts?

Mister five subordinate clauses per sentence.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I rest my case. You are a... pointless individual. I do hope you have better luck in real life than on the internet.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

No, you're a pointless individual because you literally have no point in this argument. I asked you for what your point was and you've done nothing but evade and insult. You're a vapid fucking idiot. See? I can actually stake a position.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that they're this mad says yes.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Reminds me of the same reaction, but inverse for the right, when Squid Game first came out. The right keeps insisting that the show is about socialism, even though the creator explicitly mentioned it's about capitalism.