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Then give them space to label themselves, not all men are introspective or self-aware
The last 60 years has majorly fucked with labels and masculinity, and what seems like a simple question to smooth the relationship to you may feel like an identity attack to them.
The less labels used the better, allow people's actions to define them
But sexuality is not just a label, and it sounds like internalized homophobia. If you're attracted to a male of any kind you're at least bisexual and there's nothing wrong with it.
I guarantee that the boys in these conversations believe that there is something wrong with this.
Source: I said so
Sexuality is 100% a societally constructed label. It's flexible, individual, and often changing. If you decide that 'bisexual' means anyone who's ever had a passing thought about both genders, well suddenly that label applies to 99% of the population, whether they would agree to it or not. That's not a particularly useful label at that point, it doesn't mean anything. And since most people don't use the label that way, they're going to be upset if you tell them you're stuffing them into that box.
Hmmm I'm not sure all straight men had a passing by men 🤣
I don't really understand what you're trying to say here, I think you might have misread?
The bigger point is, labeling someone without their consent is rude. A huge benefit of our growing collection of self descriptors of sexuality is that it gives people a framework to understand how they feel, and a way to communicate that with others in their community. Forcing a label on someone else is denying their lived experience and dismissing their feelings. It'd be one thing if you were having a political discussion online or something, but you're doing this to your dates.