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[–] ConHoliousDonFrankle@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Oh trains! Now do pollution, or infrastructure, or empty cities...

A year ago I would have said Concentration Camps, but we both have those now.

You should try to find better criticism.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's true that China's co2 per capita has gone up sharply, however it's still about 30% lower than the yanks. China is also dwarfing other countries with the amounts of renewable energy currently under construction https://globalenergymonitor.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/solar_wind_in_construction_treemap_for_online-1.png

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

actually China's CO2 hasn't gone up in the past 12 months: https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-clean-energy-just-put-chinas-co2-emissions-into-reverse-for-first-time/

it's likely that china has reached its CO2 emission peak, and now they're beginning to fall.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This is a good point, however the me meme is comparing to 1996. I think there's some way to go until it drops back that far.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

China has an ambitious urbanization plan, so they're building the cities before there are people actually living there to get ahead of demand. It's not like China has a shortage of people to live in these cities and they have central planning, they can just move production into these developments and people will move there for work. In fact, it's happening right now. They don't just build empty cities that just sit empty forever.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago

America has had a concentration camp since 2001

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Turns out when you decide to build a new city, of course it would be empty at first, then people will eventually move in. But we can't do that because we need to preserve the artificial scarcity of housing so they can be used as an investment.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

A year ago I would have said Concentration Camps, but we both have those now.

Jesus Christ. American liberals are champions at historical revisionism.