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[Update: Valve Responds] Mastercard Denies Pressuring Steam To Censor 'NSFW' Games (kotaku.com)
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Updated: 8/1/2025 4:18 p.m. ET: In a statement to Kotaku, a spokesperson for Valve said that while Mastercard did not communicate with it directly, concerns did come through payment processor and banking intermediaries. They said payment processors rejected Valve’s current guidelines for moderating illegal content on Steam, citing Mastercard’s Rule 5.12.7.

“Mastercard did not communicate with Valve directly, despite our request to do so,” Valve’s statement sent over email to Kotaku reads. “Mastercard communicated with payment processors and their acquiring banks.  Payment processors communicated this with Valve, and we replied by outlining Steam’s policy since 2018 of attempting to distribute games that are legal for distribution.  Payment processors rejected this, and specifically cited Mastercard’s Rule 5.12.7 and risk to the Mastercard brand.”

Rule 5.12.7 states, “A Merchant must not submit to its Acquirer, and a Customer must not submit to the Interchange System, any Transaction that is illegal, or in the sole discretion of the Corporation, may damage the goodwill of the Corporation or reflect negatively on the Marks.”

It goes on, “The sale of a product or service, including an image, which is patently offensive and lacks serious artistic value (such as, by way of example and not limitation, images of nonconsensual sexual behavior, sexual exploitation of a minor, nonconsensual mutilation of a person or body part, and bestiality), or any other material that the Corporation deems unacceptable to sell in connection with a Mark.”

Violations of rule 5.12.7 can result in fines, audits, or companies being dropped by the payment processors.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Put simply, we allow all lawful purchases on our network.

As Valve correctly points out, this is a blatant & outright lie. They have cut off any number of legal entities over pressure from politicians or groups. Now they have to own it.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, their own Rule 5.12.7 has that "or" in it, which includes transactions that are fully lawful but "may damage the goodwill of the corporation".

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

You will find such language pretty much everywhere. And there are reasons for it. A good example are certain drugs that are technically not illegal. Because they have not been officially classified yet.

That used to be a thing here in Sweden some time ago, where they'd just change some little compound and could technically, legally sell it online until it was deemed otherwise. Because it's now technically a new formula. Once it was classified, they just repeated the proceas.

MasterCard might not want to be seen as an enabler in the drug trade. So while it's technically legal. They don't want anything to do with it. And would like the option to take action.

And according to the articles. It's not MasterCard pointing to that regulation, but the processors. As MasterCard notes. They're not a bank, they're not processing your payment. They just provide the technology to do so.

Furthermore. I'm quite amazed that people seem to think Valve is this really good company that we can all trust and take their word on. Valve says one thing. MasterCard says another. I wouldn't take either one of them on just their word. Better to take a step back, and see how it develops so you don't make yourself a useful idiot.